Also, in the text of TTM it tells you what happens when you fumble throwing your team mate:
A fumbled team-mate will land in the square he originally occupied.
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A fumbled team-mate will land in the square he originally occupied.
Yes, but TTM states that "The pass is worked out exactly the same as the player with Throw Team-Mate passing a ball, except the player must subtract 1 from the D6 roll when he passes the player, fumbles are not automatically turnovers, and Long Pass or Long Bomb range passes are not possible." I see no exception listed in either TTM or Safe Throw, so I would assume that Safe Throw applies, exactly as it would for the ball. Also, both Dump Off and HMP specifically reference the ball, but both of those skills explicitly forbid use in conjunction with TTM. That would lead me to believe that it is not enough for a skill to reference the ball specifically, but rather needs an explicit statement forbidding its use with TTM.Stout Youngblood wrote:Like Darkson said, you can't use Safe Throw with TTM. All through the text of Safe Throw it references the 'ball'.
Also, in the text of TTM it tells you what happens when you fumble throwing your team mate:A fumbled team-mate will land in the square he originally occupied.
But that is an issue with another skill of having overkill in its description... its a red herring to this discussion.funnyfingers wrote:Galak, What do you think about the TTM wording for the Dump-off skill? My main point is that every skill that involves the ball says if TTM can't be used, even Dump-off which obviously could never even use dump-off...
But that is not what Safe Throw says.funnyfingers wrote:If I pickup my daughter and throw her in the pool, I was holding her before I threw her. I really am not grasping to come up with this.
funnyfingers wrote:I really don't mean to argue and very much believe I am being sensible. Again I understand that I cannot use Safe Throw with TTM as you would know best. If I pickup my daughter and throw her in the pool, I was holding her before I threw her. I really am not grasping to come up with this. I think anyone who read through the rules could come to the same conclusion unless they came here and saw that you said otherwise.
daloonieshaman wrote:By the power invested in my insanity I proclaim the unofficial official change to Safe Throw
4th day of March 2010