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juggernaut just cancels out wrestle fend and stand firm when you blitz and also lets you change a both down into a push back, which in turn would allow you to make the second block using frenzy
Thank you for some reason I think my mind was back in LRB 4.0 experimental rules where Juggernaut allowed two squares of a push back. Unless I am completely lost in my own little world and there is a skill that does that I am not thinking of
Grumbledook wrote:...which in turn would allow you to make the second block using frenzy
Yuo get the second block anyway, since its the dice that matter, not if you actually push the player back or not.
exactly it is the dice that matter so you need juggernaut to turn a both down into a push back, both down results in the players staying where they are
it is just stand firm without frenzy on push backs that you get to roll the second dice and that has always been the case
taking my line and chopping it up removing the first bit lost the context as the question was about juggernaut and frenzy rather than stand firm ;]
yea, on a both down result with both players having block, juggernaut lets you change the dice to a push, so you push them back and get your 2nd block, where without juggernaut, you would not get the 2nd block.