Juggernaut and Frenzy

[Bizzy]

Not sure how this works when you have one player that has both skills. Can anyone explain it?

[Grumbledook]

not sure what part of it you need explaining

juggernaut just cancels out wrestle fend and stand firm when you blitz and also lets you change a both down into a push back, which in turn would allow you to make the second block using frenzy

[Bizzy]

Thank you for some reason I think my mind was back in LRB 4.0 experimental rules where Juggernaut allowed two squares of a push back. Unless I am completely lost in my own little world and there is a skill that does that I am not thinking of

[Grumbledook]

hehe no problem

[Digger Goreman]

Heh, heh... I have a Juggernaut/Frenzy/AV10 Werewolf....

TOOT, TOOT

[Jural]

Heh, heh... I have a Juggernaut/Frenzy/AV10 Werewolf....

TOOT, TOOT

Hmm, I'm wondering if I'd rather have a 9/3/3/9 WW, a 10/3/3/8 WW, or an 8/3/3/10... Solid all the way around... But I prefer 8/5/3/8

[Biff]

...which in turn would allow you to make the second block using frenzy

Yuo get the second block anyway, since its the dice that matter, not if you actually push the player back or not.

[Cramy]

...which in turn would allow you to make the second block using frenzy

Yuo get the second block anyway, since its the dice that matter, not if you actually push the player back or not.

And one of the best skill combination in the game, especially if the player happens to have ST4+ and good movement.

[Grumbledook]

...which in turn would allow you to make the second block using frenzy

Yuo get the second block anyway, since its the dice that matter, not if you actually push the player back or not.

exactly it is the dice that matter so you need juggernaut to turn a both down into a push back, both down results in the players staying where they are

it is just stand firm without frenzy on push backs that you get to roll the second dice and that has always been the case

taking my line and chopping it up removing the first bit lost the context as the question was about juggernaut and frenzy rather than stand firm ;]

course it doesn't hurt to clear things up

[Xeterog]

yea, on a both down result with both players having block, juggernaut lets you change the dice to a push, so you push them back and get your 2nd block, where without juggernaut, you would not get the 2nd block.