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Jump up and Pass Block

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:45 am
by Arioso
Simple Question as I don't find the answer in the LRB.
Am I allowed to use the pass block skill with a prone player when the player has the jump up skill ? (Sinnedbad starplayer for example).

Re: Jump up and Pass Block

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:05 pm
by HairyPete77
I'm no rules guru but...

The Jump Up skill says that "if the player declares any Action other than a Block Action he may stand up for free...".

As Pass Block is not an action (Move, Pass, Blitz etc), the Jump Up skill can not be used.

Happy to be corrected though.

Re: Jump up and Pass Block

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:26 pm
by Loki
HairyPete77 wrote:I'm no rules guru but...

The Jump Up skill says that "if the player declares any Action other than a Block Action he may stand up for free...".

As Pass Block is not an action (Move, Pass, Blitz etc), the Jump Up skill can not be used.

Happy to be corrected though.
+1

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:29 pm
by Arioso
I am not sure because the pass block skill description reads that the player is allowed to move three squares. Jump up allowes to stand up for free when doing any other action than a block action.

As a pass block requires to move I think it depends if pass block is an action or not.
But I don't see why it is no move action as all other movement rules do apply as if the player does a move action.

And is there a movement without being a movement action anywhere else in the game? Maybe Side Step but this does also work when prone

Puzzling me ;)

But I see your point that the description doesn't say it's an action

Re: Jump up and Pass Block

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:37 pm
by Loki
The official FAQ (in LRB6 but not CRP) says...
PassBlock.JPG

Edit: My bad FAQ is in CRP!

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:42 pm
by Arioso
Ah clarification ;)
Thanks for pointing that out

but with this not in the CPR anymore... what is the actual intention that this was deleted from the rules ;)

Re: Jump up and Pass Block

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:46 pm
by Loki
Sorry Dude,

As per my edit the FAQ's are in LRB5, CRP and LRB6 (designer notes not FAQ are omitted from CRP); theres no escaping it: Jump Up cannot be used with Pass Block.

D

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:20 pm
by Arioso
Jup ;) you are right - thanks for clarification

Jump up and Pass Block

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:36 pm
by voyagers_uk
I tried repeatedly to get Tom to go with me on this to try and buff pass block and interceptions. He stood his ground though. I would have liked to see "Interception" as an out of turn action that could make this happen but I know that

A) I am in a small minority albeit not gingers

B) less passing occurs than in the NFL to make this viable

Re: Jump up and Pass Block

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:59 pm
by Digger Goreman
voyagers_uk wrote:I tried repeatedly to get Tom to go with me on this to try and buff pass block and interceptions. He stood his ground though. I would have liked to see "Interception" as an out of turn action that could make this happen but I know that

A) I am in a small minority albeit not gingers

B) less passing occurs than in the NFL to make this viable
And pansy elves/ag4+ers are the most likely to make an interception.... :P

Jump up and Pass Block

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:14 am
by voyagers_uk
My Jump up Mummy fancied his chances Digger, sorry if you assumed otherwise and used it as an opportunity for some "me time" on your soapbox....

Re: Jump up and Pass Block

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:23 am
by charlesanakin
My problem with this is that there is nothing in the ruleset which defines what an "action" is or is not or what differentiates an action from any non-action. Why isn't an interception attempt an action?

Re: Jump up and Pass Block

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:30 am
by Darkson
Page 7 of the rule book defines actions.