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Re: Skill justification

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:23 pm
by rolo
Also, an accurate pass to a square next to your catcher is caught on a 2+!

"The player may add 1 to any catch roll from an accurate pass targeted to his own square"
and
"... the player can ttempt to catch any pass, kick off, or crowd throw-in, but not bouncing ball, that would land in an empty square in one of his tackle zones as if it had landed in his own square ..."

So if throwing to the square behind your catcher is one range category less, it's like a hidden bonus to the pass as well ;)

If you're looking to make your AG3 passing game more reliable, this is exactly the skill you want.

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:07 pm
by sirsebstar
Eh yea, somehow i was thinking of slann and skaven catchers who dont have catch.
So while diving catch does not automaticly give catch, most catchers will have catch as a starting skill, or can aquire it..
Its a good combo.
I was always disappointed thT diving catch does not give a bonus by a handoff, otherwise i would be tempted to take it.

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:27 pm
by Darkson
rolo wrote:Also, an accurate pass to a square next to your catcher is caught on a 2+!

"The player may add 1 to any catch roll from an accurate pass targeted to his own square"
and
"... the player can ttempt to catch any pass, kick off, or crowd throw-in, but not bouncing ball, that would land in an empty square in one of his tackle zones as if it had landed in his own square ..."
Incorrect - it you pass to the square behind the catcher it's a 3+ as you haven't targeted their square.

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:40 pm
by rolo
Ah, "Targeted" vs "Landed", I stand corrected.

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:24 pm
by sirsebstar
Darkson, assuming AG3 on the catcher, its a 4+ right?
2+ if accurate with diving catch and targeted at the catcher.
4+ anything else.
If you throw to an empty field next to a catcher with DC, it is not accurate right?

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:46 pm
by rolo
sirsebstar wrote:If you throw to an empty field next to a catcher with DC, it is not accurate right?
Pretty sure it's an accurate pass as long as the thrower succeeded on the Pass roll. Even if it's to an empty square. But I was wrong before so let's see ;)

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:16 pm
by Darkson
Rolo is correct on this one. ;)

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:55 am
by Jip
Sneaky Git and Dirty Player; if I fouling an AV8 piece, roll double four (thus not breaking the armour), but add one for Dirty Player (meaning I break armour), do I get sent off?

"During a Foul action, a player with this skill is not sent off by the referee for rolling doubles on the armour roll if this didn't break the opponents armour."

The roll didn't break the armour, the Dirty Player did...?

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:01 am
by lunchmoney
Jip wrote:Sneaky Git and Dirty Player; if I fouling an AV8 piece, roll double four (thus not breaking the armour), but add one for Dirty Player (meaning I break armour), do I get sent off?

"During a Foul action, a player with this skill is not sent off by the referee for rolling doubles on the armour roll if this didn't break the opponents armour."

The roll didn't break the armour, the Dirty Player did...?
You would get sent off as Dirty Player added to the roll.

It is times like that when one is reminded that those skills are optional. If you chose to not use Dirty Player you do not break armour and do not get sent off. This is considered a good idea; you mostly want DP on the injury roll as you don't want to get sent off for a stun.

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:02 am
by rolo
Nice try ;)

Image

Sorry, he's out.

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:39 am
by sirsebstar
Dirty player is not optional, just like fend
edit: i am wrong, it IS optional see 2 posts below

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:44 am
by Jip
"Add 1 to any Armour roll or Injury roll made by a player with this skill when they make a Foul as part of a Foul Action. Note that you may only modify one of the dice rolls, so if you decide to use Dirty Player to modify the Armour roll, you may not modify the Injury roll as well."

Guess you couldn't get away with saying "I was saving it for the injury roll"! :lol:

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:53 pm
by lunchmoney
sirsebstar wrote:Dirty player is not optional, just like fend
Dirty Player is optional, just like Fend.

All skills are optional, unless they explicitly state otherwise, like Frenzy.
Page 23 of the CRP states (with a highlight on point 4, the relevant point):
SKILLS
This section of the rules includes lots more skills for players to
use. The specific rules for each skill can be found on pages
63 to 68. Each entry also lists which category the skill belongs to
(i.e. Passing, General, Mutation, etc). A skill"s category affects
which players can access it, as described later on in the rules for
Blood Bowl leagues (see pages 26 and 27). Unless otherwise
stated in the skill description, the following rules apply to
all skills:
1. All bonuses/modifiers from skills can be combined.
2. Skills may be used an unlimited number of times per Action.
3. Some skills refer to pushing a player back in order to work.
These skills will work as long as you roll a result of "Pushed",
"Defender Stumbles", or "Defender Down" on the Block dice.
4. Skill use is not mandatory.
5. You can choose to use a skill that affects a dice roll after
rolling the dice (e.g., Diving Tackle does not need to be used
until after seeing the result of the Dodge roll).
6. Only Extraordinary skills work when a player is Prone or
Stunned.
7. A skill may only be taken once per player.

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:31 pm
by sirsebstar
damm my eyes. ty for setting me straight.

Re: Skill justification

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:05 am
by landrover
Jip wrote:Took advantage of Gert Bowl's skill set and ran a team with as many skills as I could fit in.

Logistically, this turned out to be a rookie error (ten different loom bands to remember, anyone?!)
Yup. :D
Jip wrote:Frenzy (this is my favourite. Not optimal for fun, but has to be the most fun Blood Bowl skill?!).
Disagree strongly! Very optimal for fun imho. Take as much as you can! 8)