Explaining the buff threads

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:27 am

I thought I'd better wxplain before someone gets really sick of these threads.
I'm looking for ideas on how to buff: Ogres, halflings, gobbos, vampires, humans, chaos and khemri.
Then I'll be looking to nerf woodies, dwarfs and undead.

So, 10 threads in all. Thanks for participating

Cheers
Martin

SillySod · Post by **SillySod** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:59 pm

Not buffing underworld? I dont think they need buffing but they're notably less competitive than humans.

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:21 pm

Nah.
I'm not shooting for total equilibrium.

I still want the joke/stunty teams to be weaker than the rest. And IMO underworld is the strongest of those teams.

Humans may be better, but they're weak for a normal team. Hence the buff.

Cheers
Martin

Teydyn · Post by **Teydyn** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:54 pm

You forgot to add Orks to the nerf list IMO

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:34 pm

Ha - we just had this discussion

You're not the only one who thinks that orcs are a bit much. In fact, I've got a thread on just this subject among the top 5(?) in the House Rules section.

But - I've picked the teams based on a rather large data sample of LRB5 games (10.000 games = 20.000 data pips) and in that sample orcs were nowhere near the top.

That being said, perhaps there are enough people feeling like you that it would make sense to add orcs to the list...
Not sure.

Cheers
Martin

atropabelladonna · Post by **atropabelladonna** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:43 pm

Will you be posting a summary of your findings at the end?

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:08 am

Sooner or later.
For now they can be found at the end of the individual threads.

Also, I'll be posting the full list at the MBBL site as a full colour word doc. As you may know, I'll be using them in a big tournament, if I can find the coaches.

Cheers
Martin

Carnis · Post by **Carnis** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:47 am

Interested to know why your list did not include nurgle, although it did include Chaos?

Seems like they are essentially the same list, with the nurgle list paying dearly for regeneration+5x Foul app in MA4/AG2 warriors and overpriced beastmen.

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:01 pm

Hi Carnis,
2 reasons:
a) In the discussions preceding the LRB5+ I heard several coaches stating that the Nurgle team is simply "chaos, but better".
b) according to the stats I collected, which were the basis of all the buff threads, Nurgle did notably better than chaos:
http://www.plasmoids.dk/bbowl/LRB5Stats.htm

Cheers
Martin