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Taking A from Elf line and S from beasts
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:27 am
by Chris
Just curious as to what people would think the effect of taking standard agility access from the four different types of Elf linemen would be (not all would be equally affected I guess) and standard strength access from Bestmen/Pestigors?
Idea would be to alter high tv performance, but would it impact lower down as well?
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:50 am
by Shteve0
Also from dwarf longbeards and chaos marauders?
Re: Taking A from Elf line and S from beasts
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:12 am
by dode74
Imo removing A access from line-elves would reduce low TV performance as well due to the failed dodges away from the LOS/elfstall line. Removing S access from beasts/pests would reduce high TV performance more, but would also make development harder as beasts/pests (especially pests) are easier to level than the other players on those teams.
Re: Taking A from Elf line and S from beasts
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:08 am
by Fassbinder75
Yes! Its about time someone suggested nerfing that anathema to balanced Blood Bowl, the Nurgle team!
Re: Taking A from Elf line and S from beasts
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:16 pm
by Chris
Would it hit low TV elves? Their positionals skill faster and it is still 2+ to dodge. Would they go for fend instead of dodge? What other common picks would be affected?
Re: Taking A from Elf line and S from beasts
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:03 pm
by dode74
Yes, it would. I explained why: more failed dodges (1 in 6 cf. 1 in 36) = more turnovers = worse performance.
Re: Taking A from Elf line and S from beasts
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:31 pm
by Chris
Sorry, my point was at low TV the linemen don't have much dodge. Obviously not having dodge is worse, however at low TV how much dodge do you see on elf team linemen. Taking 1 instance of dodge away is not much difference for example. I guess I see so few low tv (sub 1500) elf teams I don't know if the linemen have a lot of dodge.
Re: Taking A from Elf line and S from beasts
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:55 pm
by dode74
Rookie linemen don't have much dodge, but it is often a first skill at low TV (followed by Wrestle/Block), overtaken by Wrestle/Block at high TV as first choice as tackle becomes more prevalent. Given the basic principles of the elfstall I think it would make a large difference not only in terms of moving away from a team which comes into contact but in terms of surviving the blitzes.