Kick-offs

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 3:56 pm

For your enjoyment, I have put up a site where you can "kick" the ball to a certain square and then get the probabilities by which the ball ends up out of bounds or into any square.

http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~ttokola/BB/kick

Development suggestions and errors can be sent to this thread (if you find any ;P).

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:04 pm

The only thing I would suggest would be to have a legend to tell what each different coloured square means.

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:12 pm

The legend should appear to below the checkbox for kick after you have kicked the ball.

The page uses some JavaScript, so if that's disabled it won't show up properly.
My netscape communicator doesn't show the page, but with IE6 it works fine.
Wish I could develop a tailor-made version for every known browser and setting, but I just don't have the time or the skill. Try alternate browsers if you got any.

tchatter · Post by **tchatter** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:17 pm

Looks great except that on mine it "wraps" the last square on the right, to its own line below.

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So the field looks like that above...

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:18 pm

Don't know why I missed it the first time, thanks!

Dragoonkin · Post by **Dragoonkin** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 5:03 pm

Awesome, Mestari. Works without a hitch.

I was amazed how far that ball can fly when you don't have Kick.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 8:01 pm

Nice to see more stats

However, does it take into account the chance of "Bad Kick" on the kick-off table? I only ask because when I place the ball in the centre of the board and give the kicker Kick the chance of touchback drops to 0%.

Dragoonkin · Post by **Dragoonkin** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 8:53 pm

I think by the time you add in "Bad Kick" the ball can literally land on any square in the half.

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:14 am

Darkson wrote:However, does it take into account the chance of "Bad Kick" on the kick-off table?

Yes, certainly something that I should add there. I'll put a notice here when I've done it. But don't hold your breath waiting.

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 1:44 pm

The "Where to kick-off?"-calculator has taken a new step!

The following things have been added, fixed or modified:

1. Choice between a "good" and a "bad" kick.
2. Fixed the fault in the odd-calculator that considered distance of 0 from origin (with the kick-skill, obviously) as worth of 1 instead of 8 when calculating bounces from nearby squares. This resulted in the strange 328 total events instead of the 384 total events. Nobody had spotted it, though - noticed it myself... you're one useless bunch of testers

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3.Some other minor changes with colours and color areas

Watch out for:
-Mixing good and bad kicks in order to calculate the odds before knowing the result of the kick-off
-Better graphics...
-More colours to separate the colour areas, especially in the "bad kick with kick-skill"-result

-Ability to choose a region of the pitch and determine what is the probability of the ball ending up in that area!!!

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 2:03 pm

Nice tool

It would be nice to show the wide zones - it makes choosing a spot easier.

Ian

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 2:25 pm

It would be nice to show the wide zones - it makes choosing a spot easier.

Thanks. This is a known flaw. However, there is one thing that prevents me doing it:

I can't get the borders between the squares to disappear! As long as they are not links they can be right next to each other, but they have to be links! The pitch looks ugly already the way it is, I don't want to separate the squares more by putting white lines between them...

If somebody knows how to make the link borders disappear, please let me know. If I manage that, I'll make the white lines as small pictures and put them to mark the EZ's, WZ's and the middle line.

tchatter · Post by **tchatter** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 2:28 pm

Could the pitch simply be two different shades of green??

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 2:31 pm

tchatter wrote:Could the pitch simply be two different shades of green??

Personally I feel that there's no point in that - I don't need a program to tell me which areas the ball could end up to. I prefer a program that tells and shows me in an easily conceived way (colourful pitch and colour legend in this case) what are the probabilities of the ball ending up to some certain square.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 3:02 pm

IIRC you could have a single image and then clicking on the image feeds in the coordinates to the receiving page. You'd then have to work out which coords were which square but that shouldn't be too hard.

Ian

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