Help I've never won with orcs!!!

Longshot · Post by **Longshot** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 4:07 pm

Try an other race

grimfang · Post by **grimfang** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 10:34 am

i primarily play orcs..... my best advice is to pound it out in the trenches! They will take some hits and fall, but they will survive (most of the time!) Run the ball... throw when ALL else fails.... and protect the runner with everything you can. If you have to stand still for turn until the bodies start to pile up, do it! And make sure to FOUL when you can! Try to knock the other guy off the pitch when the opportunity is there (i spend a lot of effort getting my opponent IN POSITION to knock him off the field!) And always make sure you use all your tricks and events! If you are playing in a league, you might lose to an opponent, but the it will cost him a TON of cash to replace all his players! Not a nice way to play, i know... but the question was "how to win".. not how to be a good sport. (ok,, i feel guilty when i do this sometimes too.. so buy lunch for the poor sap afterwards!)

Scott King · Post by **Scott King** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 12:45 am

Intersting, that when I played my gobbos against orcs, it was the focus on strength that caused the Orc player to lose. His BOBs got the same amount of block dice as regular orcs, and he gave up movement for it. So my goblins basically ran around them, the only players who could keep up were Blitzers, and I made sure Trolls kept them occupied. That, and a littel bit of luck. On any given Sunday...

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 1:17 am

Maybe you should try playing humans.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 9:20 am

Scott King wrote:Intersting, that when I played my gobbos against orcs, it was the focus on strength that caused the Orc player to lose. His BOBs got the same amount of block dice as regular orcs, and he gave up movement for it. So my goblins basically ran around them, the only players who could keep up were Blitzers, and I made sure Trolls kept them occupied. That, and a littel bit of luck. On any given Sunday...

He should have been getting an assist on the BOBs for 3 die blocks. S3 players can't do this as easily.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 11:22 am

Warning to bloodthirsty Orc Coaches

I played our resident murdering orc team last night in a league match. I was coaching Skaven. I was missing a Gutter Runner, dead from the previous game. I was also missing an MNG Storm Vermin. I had 70k worth of loose cash inflating my team rating. His effective TR was well over 30 more than mine. My one actual handicap roll was That Babe's Got Talent. Fantastic.

So, an Orc team against an underdog Skaven team - He went all out to bash and foul, hitting first, worrying about the ball later. At the end of his final turn when he ran in his touchdown, there was only one of my players left on the pitch. He took 16 turns to score 1 touchdown, maiming as he went.

That's all well and good but I'd scored 4 before he'd even made it to the endzone.

Every time he went bashing first he lessened his chances of winning. He risked burning rerolls on blocks when he needed them in the backfield; he went hunting down players rather than paying attention to his team's shape. He left weaknesses in his line that I could exploit, charging down his throwers with gutter runners, forcing errors and scoring TDs.

Bashing is not the way to win. Scoring more touchdowns than the opponent in the 16 turns available is the way to win. Bashing helps only in as much as it achieves that goal. If you're bashing and they're scoring, it's time to adjust your strategy.

McSnaga · Post by **McSnaga** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 11:48 am

As another Skaven coach I would concur.

I would recommend buying at least 3 Orc Blitzers for their speed and Block skill. You MUST aim to advance up the pitch each turn (injuring as many as you can on the way). Against agile opponents, don't rely on your thin LOS to stop breakthroughs. A good agile team coach will punch a hole, through and sack or surround your exposed thrower. Protect your thrower !

Heiper · Post by **Heiper** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 1:24 pm

Can't say its often i see coaches bash just to bash. The only times I see this is when they have a cage well defended at the endzone, ready to score but wants to bash the living daylight out of your team first so that you won't have a chance to score after the TD. Other than that I don't see ppl bash just to bash, there is usually a reason for the hits they throw. Maybe i'm just unlucky to not meet ppl that think like that

VampyrSoul · Post by **VampyrSoul** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 9:09 pm

grimfang wrote:i primarily play orcs..... my best advice is to pound it out in the trenches! They will take some hits and fall, but they will survive (most of the time!) Run the ball... throw when ALL else fails.... and protect the runner with everything you can. If you have to stand still for turn until the bodies start to pile up, do it! And make sure to FOUL when you can! Try to knock the other guy off the pitch when the opportunity is there (i spend a lot of effort getting my opponent IN POSITION to knock him off the field!) And always make sure you use all your tricks and events! If you are playing in a league, you might lose to an opponent, but the it will cost him a TON of cash to replace all his players! Not a nice way to play, i know... but the question was "how to win".. not how to be a good sport. (ok,, i feel guilty when i do this sometimes too.. so buy lunch for the poor sap afterwards!)

When have you bought me lunch?? Okay, granted you bought me a candy bar and soda the other day, but you killed 4 of my humans!!!

We still on for this weekend?

Vampy

kaboom · Post by **kaboom** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 1:34 pm

for my team, i start whith:
4LINEMAN
3BO
3BLITZER
1TROLL
3REROLL
1POP
, whith that team u can play like a grobill(troll, blitzer)
and u can run whith your 3blitzer
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