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 Post subject: Re: Diving Catch - 2 players with the skill
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:09 am 
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Q: If a player from your team fails to catch a ball from a kick-off, and the ball
bounces over the line of scrimmage is it a touchback?
A: Yes, any event that causes the ball to go out of bounds or over the line of
scrimmage during a kick-off results in a touchback

well that is what a FAQ is for to straighten out a poorly written rule

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 Post subject: Re: Diving Catch - 2 players with the skill
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:11 am 
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Question: If the ball is going to land between two pieces on opposing teams that have DC, who decides if they're going to use it first or not? Person 1 might want to use it but person 2 might not. Or vice versa.

if both choose to use it then neither can
so one the same team:
player one tries to use DC and fails you cannot decide to use player 2 to use DC because they would cancel each other out

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 Post subject: Re: Diving Catch - 2 players with the skill
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He said "opposing" players.

P.14 of the CRP (sorry, no idea in BB2016) - "If both coaches want to use a skill to affect the same Action or move, then the coach whose turn is taking place must use his skill first."

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 Post subject: Re: Diving Catch - 2 players with the skill
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daloonieshaman wrote:
well that is what a FAQ is for to straighten out a poorly written rule
Easy to throw stones from the sidelines ... isn't it.

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 Post subject: Re: Diving Catch - 2 players with the skill
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GalakStarscraper wrote:
daloonieshaman wrote:
well that is what a FAQ is for to straighten out a poorly written rule
Easy to throw stones from the sidelines ... isn't it.

I can only afford the top row of the nose bleed section :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Diving Catch - 2 players with the skill
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:39 am 
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daloonieshaman wrote:
well that is what a FAQ is for to straighten out a poorly written rule

You cannot, with limited wordspace, make clarifications for every rule interaction within the wording of each rule. FAQs can be a preemptive catchall for those clarifications as well as answering any subsequent actual questions.


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 Post subject: Re: Diving Catch - 2 players with the skill
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Darkson wrote:
He said "opposing" players.

P.14 of the CRP (sorry, no idea in BB2016) - "If both coaches want to use a skill to affect the same Action or move, then the coach whose turn is taking place must use his skill first."

Boom, cheers.

Derailing a bit, but that reminds me of another scenario (which I'm sure has been answered dozens of times)

Player A has Dodge, Player B has Diving Tackle. Which is correct:

Player A rolls a 1 for the Dodge, player B doesn't therefore use Diving Tackle. Player A rerolls dodge and succeeds on a 2+. Can B use DT still?

Or

Play A rolls a 1 for the dodge, then rerolls it and gets a 2. Player B then decides whether to use DT.

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 Post subject: Re: Diving Catch - 2 players with the skill
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Player B decides whether to use DT after 1st roll, if not used on 1st roll player again has choice after the 2nd dice roll.

So if 1st roll is a 1, the DT can choose not to use it; after 2nd roll they may choose to not use it either as roll is low e.g. 1 or high e.g. 6 as in either case DT and therefore there player being prone does not make a difference to the result. If DT was used to create fail on first roll player must stay prone for re-roll whether opponent rolls a 1 or 6.

ps CRB said "...Diving Tackle may be used on a re-rolled dodge if not declared for use on the first Dodge roll..."

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 Post subject: Re: Diving Catch - 2 players with the skill
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+1 to what Loki said :)

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Awesome, thanks. Now, about Hypnotic Gaze from prone...

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dode74 wrote:
daloonieshaman wrote:
well that is what a FAQ is for to straighten out a poorly written rule

You cannot, with limited wordspace, make clarifications for every rule interaction within the wording of each rule. FAQs can be a preemptive catchall for those clarifications as well as answering any subsequent actual questions.

There are days I wish this forum had a Like or Agree button.

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 Post subject: Re: Diving Catch - 2 players with the skill
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GalakStarscraper wrote:
dode74 wrote:
daloonieshaman wrote:
well that is what a FAQ is for to straighten out a poorly written rule

You cannot, with limited wordspace, make clarifications for every rule interaction within the wording of each rule. FAQs can be a preemptive catchall for those clarifications as well as answering any subsequent actual questions.

There are days I wish this forum had a Like or Agree button.


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