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Bank Rule confusion

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:59 pm
by celticgriffon
Hey everyone,

Our league uses a bank rule where any amount in the treasury over 200k is added to TV.

Scenario A:

Your team TV 1M
Opponents TV 1.2 M (200k of this amount is realized because the player has 400k in their treasury)

Inducements are 200K.

Scenario B:

Start of the match opponents may take money out of petty cash for inducements. Let’s say they buy a wandering apothecary (100k).

Their TV is still 1.2M.
1 M base cost of team
100k from excess treasury (treasury is now at 300k instead of 400k and anything over 200k is added)
100k from Wandering apothecary.

Inducements for your team are 200k.

Am I thinking about this right?

Scenario 3:
Opponent buys 2 wandering apothecaries at the start of the match using petty cash. Cost 200K
Their TV is still 1.2 M.
1M base cost of team
0k (treasury is currently at 200k - not over 200k)
200k (2 x wandering apothecaries)

Inducements for your team are 200k.

Scenario 4:
Opponent buys 3 bribes using petty cash.
Cost 300k
Their TV is now 1.3M
1M base cost of team
0k for treasury (treasury is now at 100k)
300k for bribes

Inducements for your team are 300k.

Obviously... scenario 3 would be optimal for your opponent.

Cheers,
Michael

Re: Bank Rule confusion

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:36 pm
by GalakStarscraper
Okay ... I read through this ... I feel like it is missing a key point.

At the end of the previous game you have money in the bank (not counting toward TV) and you have Treasury (which does count for TV). This is set at the end of a game.

So for the next game ... your TV for inducements includes the money in your Treasury. It is already in your TV. If you spend it on any inducements .. your TV does not change at all. If you do not spend it on any inducements ... your TV does not change at all.

The scenario could not happen with the Bank. You cannot remove money from the Bank. So if start the game with 200k in Treasury and 200k in the Bank ... then you have 200k that you can use (and is already part of your TV). The other 200k is not part of your TV and cannot be used.

Tom

Re: Bank Rule confusion

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:08 pm
by celticgriffon
Hey Tom,

Thanks for reading this. Perhaps I am getting terms and concepts confused.

At the end of my last game my opponent has the following:
1M - Base TV
400k in "unspent" money (should this be labelled as Treasury or in the Bank, both or neither?)
According to our house rules any unspent money carried into the next game over 200k is considered TV.
In this case that would be 200K.
Revised TV is now 1.2M

This is my base for each scenario.

Thanks,
Michael

Re: Bank Rule confusion

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:21 pm
by Darkson
In the post-game the coach should decide how much they want to move from the Bank (doesn't affect TV) to treasury (does affect TV), if any.

Once they've done that, their TV is "fixed" - they can't decide to transfer money in the pre-game section.

Re: Bank Rule confusion

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:30 pm
by GalakStarscraper
Darkson wrote:In the post-game the coach should decide how much they want to move from the Bank (doesn't affect TV) to treasury (does affect TV), if any.

Once they've done that, their TV is "fixed" - they can't decide to transfer money in the pre-game section.
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Yup ... this is how the Bank rule works.

Re: Bank Rule confusion

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:26 pm
by plasmoid
Hi Celtic,
as the others have stated, if you use the original Bank rule, then there is no Petty Cash rule. The two are mutually exclusive.

If you're playing in an NTBB League, then the NTBB rules merge the Petty Cash rule and the Bank rule.
In that case, just follow the CRP rules for Petty Cash and TV, (you'd just be forced to move at least the 200K into Petty Cash).

Cheers
Martin