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double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:20 am
by dirt mcgirt
would you take the +1 in STR or dodge, or another skill? block? its a 1st skill up dwarf.

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:36 am
by Pedda
+ST, no question. Next skill would then be block (or perhaps wrestle). With ST4, he's way on his way to becoming a great player.

On a team like dwarves, dodge isn't as good since you'll probably not have as many. Hence, making it easy for your opponent to negat it. Diving tackle is a great double skill for dwarves.

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 am
by nazgob
I'd humbly disagree. Dodge is excellent on runners. Keep them on their feet and able to dodge just in case.

Strength is better though.

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:28 pm
by CyberedElf
+ST
Dodge and Diving Tackle are both good, but not comparable to +ST
Dwarf doubles I give Dodge to players with AG 3 and Diving Tackle to players with AG 2.

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:12 pm
by swilhelm73
+ST

With SH it makes it hard for leaping elves to cause you problems :)

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:28 am
by Darkson
Another vote for ST.

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:30 am
by lunchmoney
+ST

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:27 am
by dirt mcgirt
I went back to playing this team again on cyanide. This dwarf now has +1 ST and block. He also just acquired a 3rd skill. I rolled for normal skill up. I was thinking of taking Leader. Any suggestions on taking a general or pass (normal) skill up?

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:47 am
by adhansa
Tackle or Strip Ball. When your opponent shiftside or generally tries to outrun you, this guy will be the one to fix your problems. Leaning towards tackle.

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:49 pm
by rolo
Kickoff Return saves you movement on your first turn (the most dangerous turn for Dwarf offense)
Fend is underrated on a ball carrier, but there are probably better options.
Leader's only good if you're hurting for rerolls, not a common situation for Dwarves.
Kick helps on defense, kind of a waste on your best player though.
Tackle is probably the best choice, because the guys who start with it are just so slow.

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:43 pm
by dirt mcgirt
I like the Tackle idea. I feel we can make it so.

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:38 am
by Aliboon
I'd go frenzy rather than tackle. About the same chance of a knockdown on a dodge player (he'll be your safety I'd imagine), but more specifically, your Runner is your ball carrier. Occasionally he'll need to blitz and dodge through heavy traffic to get the score - much better for a 2d block, then probably a 1d (maybe 2d) block then a 3+ dodge (or none) to score than a 2d block, then a 4/5+ dodge, then 3+ dodge to score.

And Tackle is a waste. Literally all your team has it, or should have before this ST4, MA6 guy.

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:35 am
by JaM
I'd take a look at frenzy as well, nice to have that on an STR 4 player with a load of movement.

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:57 pm
by stashman
Why are we even having a discussion :-)

Re: double 6's on a dwarf runner

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:10 pm
by rolo
Oh it's an argument you want? That's always fun :-D

Frenzy is a terrible skill on your ball carrier. Just by having that skill, it takes away the option to blitz off a marker and run forward - you have to follow up. Worse, that sometimes means being forced to follow up backwards if your opponent places his marker intelligently. MA6 isn't exactly track star. At best it can turn "need a push to get free" into "need a pow to get free", at worst it means wasted movement, extra GFI, sometimes even not being able to score because you had to move the wrong way first.

Granted, Tackle is also rarely helpful to a ball carrier - but it never hurts.

(the usual disclaimers, ymmv, it's all for fun and down to different play styles).