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 Post subject: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:09 pm 
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Found on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1547860 ... 570632966/

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So a new look Human team, looking like something of a Human/Bret mashup. Main points:
  • 0-2 5529 Ogres for 140k
  • 0-2 7337 Catch/Dodge/Pro for 110k
  • 0-4 6338 Guard/Block for 90k
  • 0-4 6338 Pass for 70k
  • 0-16 6338 Fend for 70k
  • New Star Player
  • New bespoke skill - DP player has infinite bribes!
  • New inducement - unclear on usage but presumably it's a d6 with 1-2 resulting in no effect, 3-4 ball scatters one square less and 5-6 ball scatters one or two (coach choice) fewer squares

First question: is this real? I've not checked the app myself.
Second question is a whole lot of "wtf???" questions.


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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:25 pm 
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So it looks like they are basically releasing untested teams for general (i.e. friendly) play...
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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:23 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:09 pm 
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At least we don't have to pay to playtest for them (unlike proofreading). So be it.

edit: Oh, there is a cost to access this team. They do want us to pay to playtest for them.

As far as the team:
Bodyguard is great, compare to Amazon Blitzer and it still rocks.
Thrower is underwhelming, but not out of the ordinary, compare Norse Thrower
Ogres, two big guys, and the rest of the team isn't stunty?
Retainers with agility access, very nice
Princelings, I don't know what to think, but certainly not bad
12 positionals? But then who will take 4 of the throwers?

IMO too strong. Because of high costs it won't start too strong, but by 1500 TV, watch out.

7 Retainers
4 Bodyguards
2 Rerolls
= 970k

I think Filthy Rich is underpriced on the star. They should have based the star on a princeling. A Pro star would be amazing, but it would increase the cost of someone who is on the pitch to just foul. That and no block, 7 armor, he could be targeted.

Race specific inducements and the new skill are just adding too much unnecessarily.

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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:47 pm 
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Surprised there are so few comments here. Is the community discussing these in another forum, facebook group, etc? If so, can someone point me to it?

Regarding the teams my two (inexperienced) cents:

Savage orcs:
Orcs with -AV +frenzy spam. Not a fan. Difficult to work with at low-mid TV. Star is ok and inducement worse than a babe. Maybe tier 1.5? Dode, didn't you make the Khorne team for BB:CE? Your thoughts?

Human nobles: 2 ogres... WTF? 4xblock+guard... WTF? 140k star for (mostly) unlimited DP fouls? Somebody took to heart that humans are currenty low tier1 one, I guess. I'd say they are too powerful.

In any case, it is a good approach to release them in the optional app as optional teams for playtesting.


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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:56 pm 
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MacHurto wrote:
Savage orcs:
Orcs with -AV +frenzy spam. Not a fan. Difficult to work with at low-mid TV. Star is ok and inducement worse than a babe. Maybe tier 1.5? Dode, didn't you make the Khorne team for BB:CE? Your thoughts?
Not seen the savage orc roster they've come out with so I can't really comment on it. Khorne was based on the old MTBBL savage orcs, though.
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In any case, it is a good approach to release them in the optional app as optional teams for playtesting.
But charging £2 for a untested team? And how are they testing? Facebook feedback? Really?


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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:06 pm 
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dode74 wrote:
MacHurto wrote:
Savage orcs:
Orcs with -AV +frenzy spam. Not a fan. Difficult to work with at low-mid TV. Star is ok and inducement worse than a babe. Maybe tier 1.5? Dode, didn't you make the Khorne team for BB:CE? Your thoughts?
Not seen the savage orc roster they've come out with so I can't really comment on it. Khorne was based on the old MTBBL savage orcs, though.
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In any case, it is a good approach to release them in the optional app as optional teams for playtesting.
But charging £2 for a untested team? And how are they testing? Facebook feedback? Really?


Yeah, ok. Charging for them is bad. No excuses there. Thought they were free. Not sure how they are testing or how they should test? Given new teams have been done before I assume they would follow the same approach?

Savage orcs
Lineman 5338 frenzy 50k
Blitzer 6338 block frenzy 80k
Thrower 5337 pass NoS frenzy 70k
Alt-BoB 4428 thick skull 80k
Alt-trill 5519 same skills 130k


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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:14 pm 
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How are people accessing these? Can't see them in my app.


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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:30 pm 
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clotoro wrote:
How are people accessing these? Can't see them in my app.

I would like to know that too. Not willing to pay for more than the rules at the moment.


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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:46 pm 
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With iOS you need to update the app to 1.2 or something like that so the new in-app purchases appear (just checked)


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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:07 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:09 pm 
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Wow - these guys came in with a lot of goodwill.
I'm increasingly unimpressed.

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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:50 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:53 pm 
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First starting positional with Guard! Roster design out the window?

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 Post subject: Re: New race on My Dugout app!
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:58 pm 
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Savage orcs seems hard to play! No GENERAL skills on normal for anyone! Bless the doubles in this team :-)


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