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Players joining on a Sunday

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:33 pm
by sann0638
This came up at Thrud, where we had various players for the Sunday only, and it's happened a lot before (refs stepping in, for example). How do you decide who they play? If they start on 0 points, this is unfair on those coaches who have had a bad first day, who by now should be getting some easier matches. In the middle seems most sensible, but then we couldn't figure out how to do this on Score, where you would ideally give them average points from Day 1.

Thoughts?

Re: Players joining on a Sunday

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:51 pm
by Glowworm
Make them play each other if there is an even number.......

Re: Players joining on a Sunday

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:15 pm
by mawph
Similarly, how did score deal with strength of schedule for people playing only day 1 - did it factor anything in? (I mainly ask as I placed last of the coaches on 12 points and beaten one opponent who was day 1 only).

For coaches joining in day 2, there must be something you can extrapolate from coach NAF rankings to points from the tournament's scoring system. No idea how to implement it in score though.

Re: Players joining on a Sunday

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:32 pm
by sann0638
mawph wrote:Similarly, how did score deal with strength of schedule for people playing only day 1 - did it factor anything in? (I mainly ask as I placed last of the coaches on 12 points and beaten one opponent who was day 1 only).

For coaches joining in day 2, there must be something you can extrapolate from coach NAF rankings to points from the tournament's scoring system. No idea how to implement it in score though.
I think it just totals points of all your opponents, so yes, playing someone who played day 1 only would mess you up.

Re: Players joining on a Sunday

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:03 pm
by mawph
Bah, my round 5 opponent played dockbowl too, so that's more points I missed out on ;)

Re: Players joining on a Sunday

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:32 pm
by babass
If one of the tiebreaker is the total points of the opponent, having players on satursday (or sunday) only could be an issue...

For those joining on sunday, we know "average" level of coachs (most of the time it's local coach, and organizers know them), so we could find them "logic" opponent.
In worth case, let the sunday coachs play together in first rounds (it would offer time to the organizer to see what would be best pairings next...)

Re: Players joining on a Sunday

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:38 pm
by RoterSternHochdahl
Personally, I don't see a great deal of unfairness to put them in at the bottom of the table and let Score do it's job.

(Tell me the other applicable place in blood bowl where bad luck on occasion 1 justifies better fortune on occasion 2.)

Re: Players joining on a Sunday

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:48 pm
by sann0638
RoterSternHochdahl wrote:(Tell me the other applicable place in blood bowl where bad luck on occasion 1 justifies better fortune on occasion 2.)
If you concede a TD, you get the ball?

Re: Players joining on a Sunday

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:13 pm
by RoterSternHochdahl
sann0638 wrote:
RoterSternHochdahl wrote:(Tell me the other applicable place in blood bowl where bad luck on occasion 1 justifies better fortune on occasion 2.)
If you concede a TD, you get the ball?
I have always understood that as another step towards complete failure ;)