For the Hell of it!!

Lictor · Post by **Lictor** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:02 am

*shakes head* Nope

(One of the reasons I need 40K and WHF buffs in here.)

I don't have my 40K rule book on me

but I am pretty certain a standard Stealer is 6+ save without upgrade Extended Carapace.

Now that I am thinking about it all again...

0-1 Lictor (MC) 5 5 3 7 - Loner, Wild Animal, Mighty Blow, (need something[s] to make him stand out from the rest) MS/GAP
0-2 Genestealers 6 3 3 7 - Claws, Extra Arms - MS/GAP
0-16 Gaunts 6 3 3 6 - Sprint - M/GASP (St2 I can't justify. AV 6 I can

)
0-1 Hormagaunt - 7 3 3 6 - Leap, Stab, Secret Weapon - M/GASP
0-1 Ripper - 5 1 3 6 - Dauntless, Mighty Blow, Claw, Piling On, Stunty Titchy, Regenerate - M/GASP (YES I am KIDDING)

This side needs another 0-2 position. Can go speedy with Raveners, bit more biff with Warriors, LoS holders with T-Guard.

120 K on G-Stealers I can agree with.
80 K H-Gaunt I can agree with my stat line. Great concept though Andro!! Love your work.
Gaunts at 40K *shrugs* How does AV decrease affect the over all scheme of things?

Thoughts? Critique?

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:48 am

How about a stat like toughness? That's AV too.

I remember back in 2nd ed. when there was a mutation called carapace. Unless I'm much mistaken, it gave +2AV!

Cheers
Martin

Lictor · Post by **Lictor** » Mon May 18, 2009 11:39 pm

Back in 2nd Ed maybe, but the most recent edition only give +1. At best a basic stealer gets 5+ when upgraded, so no cookie

tenwit · Post by **tenwit** » Tue May 19, 2009 12:52 am

120k AV7 players, 80k AV6 players.. definitely unlike any other team. This is not a team that will have to struggle with excessive spiralling expenses.. maybe that toughness in the form of 0-2 Tyranid Guards would be appropriate.

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Tue May 19, 2009 6:55 am

Hi Lictor,
what I meant was: AV in Blood Bowl does not just reflect a models armor save, but also its Tougness (T) stat.
Stealers are tougher than humans, both because of higher T, and because of their built in armor save. Humans don't have that either.

And the 2nd ed. I was talking about was 2nd ed. BB! The mutation Carapace was a +2 to the players Armor Value stat.

But hey, do 'em whichever way you like. I'm easy

Cheers
Martin