I agree Undead is typically a hard match up but I would say they are an elite team (above top tier) at a low TV and in tournaments, short leagues. However i will happily play against any of those other races and believe I have an equal chance or a better than equal chance at winning than my opponent. As a big fan of Skaven, a team I have played alot; the two teams I hate facing more than any other are actually Humans and Norse. Similar story with Wood elves as well which I have played with a huge amount (though don't like them that much).MKL wrote:Well, "top tier" after Undead, Wood Elves, Dwarves, Amazons, Skaven, Orcs... just to name some teams out the top of my mind.garion wrote: the only problem with reducing all their players costs is that humans are imo a top tier starter race.
Not going to get into amazons, they are just a terribly designed team that are far too good against everyone except Dwarves and Chaos Dwarves at a low TV, and mind numbingly dull as well.
Dwarves, against I find humans more than a match for them at first, you just need to use your superior Ma and yuo can run rings round them. Later on this becomes a lot harder when Dwarves have MBPO en masse and Guard on every player.
Finally Orcs, I think Humans are a great match for them at first. The problem comes when those teams reach higher Tvs and the Orcs have spammed Guard and Mighty Blow all round their team. Humans certainly don't need a big boost early on in their life. They need something that lets them keep performing well when their players start dropping like flies which always happens at somepoint. This is why I like the idea of good cheap stars, something no team currently has except for Skaven (why they do god only knows?) and this would go someway in making them more competative in long leagues or perpetual leagues.
edit: back to the original question, no to St3 catchers, that would give humans 8 blitzers. If you just want a simple boost to human catchers give them Av8. that isn't so drastic and makes them function in the same way but keeps them around a little better.
QFTBut in a blue-sky world, we should actually make Human Catchers ST3 when being blocked only.