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 Post subject: Re: Lucca World Cup Round 1 Preview
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:01 am 
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1437.93 total for Waterbowl, 239.66 average.

Massive caveats attached as Sann mentioned - what if someone with a high Wood Elf ranking is using a fresh 150CR Human team?

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Are we betting on this? If so I'll stick a cheeky punt on Team Wombat (Aus) if they can stay [relatively] hangover free...

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Betting would be tricky but I reckon a fantasy football thing where you make your own team using individual players would work pretty well

Betting would indeed be tricky. But I'd happily take Shteve0's bet ... :wink:

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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:43 am 
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sann0638 wrote:
I gave a spreadsheet of the teams if anyone feels the inclination...


Can you send me the spreadsheet? Thanks :)

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 Post subject: Re: Lucca World Cup Round 1 Preview
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pipey wrote:
sann0638 wrote:
With about 100 caveats, it would be interesting if some clever person could find the total naf ranking of each team and see how that correlates with how well they do

Geordie Juggernaut. scores 1293.14 on that measure.

That's their ranking with their chosen race.

Average of 215.52!!! :)

Accepting there are several caveats as you say...

Someone with a huge amount of time on their hands could work this out for all teams :)

My team averages just over 140. I'm quite curious if we're back of the pack in that regard.

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 Post subject: Re: Lucca World Cup Round 1 Preview
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:48 pm 
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Okay, no guarantees but:

Code:
Team,Rating
Team Waterbowl,1437.93
Masters of Tilea,1379.64
Geordie Juggernaut.,1293.14
Socks' 2,1261.51
Joe le taxi,1255.78
American Football Conference,1223.71
Team Hellhound,1215.73
Latino Lovers,1203.73
Pilous,1201.49
Lutece Noobz,1190.31
Spartak Avalanche,1184.13
Azian's Champions,1183.92
The Holy Six,1183.69
Los ayudantes de Santa Claws,1162.04
Unqualified,1143.51
Team NRW,1126.7
Blockparty,1116.07
Jodidos Fumbleros,1105.3
Tana dei Bidoni,1095.77
Predatori Firenze,1093.35
Evolution,1091.02
TBBL,1082.98
Turone Bashlords,1078.61
Mongrel Horde,1075.67
Luccini,1068.24
LSR Pontebragas,1066.91
ECBBL Blackshirts,1064.11
Swiss Ouroboros,1061.04
Total Reroll,1058.52
Swedish Blood Bowl Alliance,1058.3
Mas Galactikos,1056.54
Team CBBA,1055.95
Six Pistols,1055.28
Legio II Italica,1053.23
GOLEADORES DA ESTRADINHA,1052.43
Team Canada,1052.33
Catenaccio Forever,1045.49
Blocktors Without Borders,1031.12
Colonials,1030.72
Massacreurs Turons,1029.43
Team Wales,1018.46
Wild Team Chimera,1018.05
The Linemen,1016.45
Team Rodents,1016.16
Legio V Urbana,1014.98
Elder Skelter,1010.36
Minotarri,1009.39
SantaKO Total Team,1008.42
CMMF,1004.01
BRIGANTI,1002.28
A - Team,995.95
Team Grand Est,995.87
Stockbowl Old Ones,991.59
SPIKE! Crusaders,990.81
DARTH FUMBBLERS,987.98
Les Pilounours,986.6
Team Bubble,984.15
Olympique Pilous,982.11
Norway,973.42
BUBBA UK,973.26
Team ANZAC,970.98
No Lucca Tall,967.09
Bilbali Blood Bowl In Darkness,966.34
Lion Rampant,965.99
Raffazzonato Drunk Team,961.42
KILL BBIL,960.77
Azes Tech,959.14
Marenostrum Team,957.12
Da Bolkon Trolls,956.82
Biroldo Royal,956.55
Team Baguette,951.8
Villaverde Alto,948.09
Kurpfalz Crew,947.91
Les Déchus,946.89
Saltire,943.79
Budapest Ravens,942.73
Hampshire Superhogs,942.72
Team Exiles,942.09
Team Wombat,941.37
Les Experts Lutèce,938.76
Half ´n´ Half,936.09
Los Favoritos,933.33
AINPACTE,932.99
Kick'Azes,931.51
Parabellum Joker,930.65
F.B.B.F. - Fulginium Blood Bowl Federation,926.57
NEUSTRIA,926.25
NTeam North Sea,925.35
I Mazzuolatori Apuani,922.48
Team BN Cabalvision,922.21
BB4Fun,921.42
2nd Edition,920.79
Team TRAUMA,919.09
Spartakulés,918.79
Tassi Del Miele,918.56
Spanish Bastards,917.76
L'Altra Parte A,914.93
Hell-O-Wien,913.95
Zero Class,913.73
Blueyard Carnage Crew,912.61
Austria - Mulikuh not Kangaroo,910.35
Ekipo Averno Blood-Bowl,907.35
Black Thunder BBF,905.33
LSR Mariconettis,905.22
Hòkulo Skool,903.36
Bärfurt,902.06
Malpas Goats of Arioch,901.86
Old Mumblers Company,900
Mediolanum Warlords,900
Jackals Blood Bowl Team,900
I Cavalieri dell'Altoforno,900
Blodge This!,896.74
BUBBLE-2,896.6
Si Vis Vinci Parabellum,895.92
DopoLavoroPredatori,893.31
Polenta e Cannonau,892.12
Luridi Ludici,890.89
The Dirty (Half) Dozen,889.69
Carini & Coccolosi,884.85
Titty Boys Parma,882.77
Bababoys,882.74
Big Guys,880.84
Texani,879.74
Socks' 1,878.55
Team SlowPlay,876.24
The Arverngers,874.5
VICTIMS,871.39
Guardiani del Blood Bowl,868.85
Brigata Muratella,867.26
Globetrotters,866.5
Luccini Old Style,864.76
grand est team Z,863.8
Team Z - L'Altraparte,862.87
Vesunna,862.14
UCL,862.08
Desperados,860.59
Predatori Indomiti,860.31
Euskal Turnover,857.12
Hungarian Blooderhood,856.88
Stars & Spite,846.92
Les Lemovices,840.16
Fun factor Zento,838.71
Gavilan Pollero,832.4
Danish Dynamite,829.24
Villaverde Bajo,826.55
Northwestern Barbarians,818.37
Beppe's Barbarians,804.39
Papies Rhône Alpins,797.96
Team Chaos,795.66
Hakkaa Päälle!,793.65
Grand Est Maxi Best Of,771.28
Discepoli del Signore della Notte,748.08


Unknown ratings are assumed to be 150 regardless of the coach's other teams. Divide by 6 if you want to know your average ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Lucca World Cup Round 1 Preview
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 Post subject: Re: Lucca World Cup Round 1 Preview
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:55 pm 
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Great rolo, thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: Lucca World Cup Round 1 Preview
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Looks like the other American team might be worth keeping an eye on, eh? Or is that just small pond syndrome?

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 Post subject: Re: Lucca World Cup Round 1 Preview
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Gaixo wrote:
Looks like the other American team might be worth keeping an eye on, eh? Or is that just small pond syndrome?


One way to find out, see how AFC does at the World Cup!

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http://www.thenaf.net/2015/10/total-team-rankings/

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Interesting stuff, the list does correspond pretty well with my very vague gut feel on who we will see competing at the top. Obviously the random nature of Blood Bowl means that anything can happen. But good to see that the NAF rankings can produce this kind of result (when the individual rankings sometimes seem to contain a few outliers).

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Very cool and good work :)

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Team ANZAC! 970.98!

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Are we betting on this? If so I'll stick a cheeky punt on Team Wombat (Aus) if they can stay [relatively] hangover free...


You're kidding, right?

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We should totally be able to place side bets in a venerable Blood Bowl tradition!

No bets, but here are some predictions:
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I see a few categories of teams:

Favorites:
Although Waterbowl have to be the overall favorites (or, being brits, "favourites"?), and Masters of Tilea way up there too (especially if Home Field is an advantage in Blood Bowl), any of these teams could take the trophy on a good day, and Table 1 will probably be matchups from this group throughout the tournament. Nobody will be shocked if one of these teams wins it all.

The Middle:
Just because of how the Swiss System works, there's going to be a lot of volatility in where these teams finish. We all know that Blood Bowl is a cruel game, and in such a large field, something as small as one touchdown or casualty more or less, or a tie instead of a win, or something like that, could probably mean ten or twenty places higher or lower in the ranking.
And who knows? Someone from this group could come out of nowhere and shock the Blood Bowl world!!

Who Knows?
There are four teams who are at exactly 900 points (every coach is playing a team for which they are unranked in the NAF standings). Who knows where they'll end up? Keep an eye out for "Old Mumblers Company", "Mediolanum Warlords", "Jackals Blood Bowl Team", and "I Cavalieri dell'Altoforno"

Spoilers
These are the teams who are just there to have fun and cause chaos. For whatever reason, they feature coaches with low NAF rankings in those particular teams ... these are your stunties, your all-piling-on Ogres, and so on. They'll probably spend much of the World Cup playing against each other, BUT that doesn't mean that they're going to be pushovers! Like I pointed out before, the middle part of the standings is going to be pretty close ... which means some team will lose out on a top-100 finish because Halflings or Goblins scratched out a win against them. And don't expect much sympathy from anyone if your tournament gets ruined by Ogres. This is Blood Bowl, and this is the World Cup!!

See you guys in Lucca in a couple days!!

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rolo wrote:
Who Knows?
There are four teams who are at exactly 900 points (every coach is playing a team for which they are unranked in the NAF standings). Who knows where they'll end up? Keep an eye out for "Old Mumblers Company", "Mediolanum Warlords", "Jackals Blood Bowl Team", and "I Cavalieri dell'Altoforno"



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