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 Post subject: New "bowl" box by years end AKA Dreadball
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:10 am 
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New box in the shop listings!

NYA MGE DBM01-1 Dreadball Futuristic Sports Game $79.99

Let's the guesses begin.




































Not by GW, no need to guess that. :orc:


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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:50 am 
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$80, 4 plastic teams? Interested to see what their rules are and hope they have teams that are compatible with blood bowl team positions :) Be interesting to see how it sells. If it does really well would it convince GW they should re-do BB, or make them think now the market is sated?


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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:58 am 
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Sounds interesting and seeing as it’s mantic it looks like it will be another blatant rip off of GW to go with their Fantasy, 40K and Space Hulk clones. Maybe this is their response to the continual rumours about a Bloodbowl boxed set with 4 plastic teams in it?

I’ve been rather disappointed with Mantic’s efforts model wise so far. Their elves were awful and the dwarfs average at best but the undead had some nice models. The sculpts for their sci fi range were decent but borrowed far too much from what GW were doing 20 years ago. Which is a real shame as a massive squat fan with over 200 models I’d have loved the Forge Fathers to look better. :(

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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:42 pm 
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They have a space hulk clone?

The models I think aren't meant to look that good, merely good enough. Its very much the school of gaming that the models are really better counters and are quite plentiful. While this works I think with their fantasy game (I've seen excellent armies using mantic for the body of men and Foundary for the eye catching pieces - I went and bought a load of foundary as a result for BB sideline and counters - working ont he principle that you see a unit of greenskins, then are drawn to the special ones while the rest are background colour) I concur that its a bit ropey for a game that is nominally skirmish like the 40k clone and people tend to look at individuals not units.


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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:52 pm 
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Assuming this is a Fantasy Football Clone (though, perhaps it's some quite different sport game), is the boxed game just an excuse to make FF Minis? I mean, the market already seems flooded by FF Games, and really Blood Bowl is such a fantastic, balanced, rich game (thanks entirely to the excellent work of the BBRC over the years), I've never had an itch to look into the other games--though I do pick up some of the splendid miniatures for the other games.


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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:27 pm 
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I am so excited about this,I think that i may not purchase one.The only that would appeal to for this game is that the figs are in 28mm.

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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:30 pm 
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This game is going to be hex based and set in a sci fi setting so more speedball than blood bowl. will be keeping an eye on this mind

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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:28 pm 
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Some preview image avaliable, confirming what robsoma said about hexagons and scifi.


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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:54 am 
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Back to the game, look interesting in a steampunk meets Elfball, gets drunk and 9 months later kinda way....... :D

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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:30 am 
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*sigh*
Even tropics about non BB products get dragged into clawpomb debates on the 1st page now. :roll:

One thing Mantic does have going for it is their plastic minis are very cheap. So if they release some follow up boxed sets or you can get the players separately then it could be a good source of spare parts.

As it is sci-fi the bodies could be a little high tech but heads and most importantly arms should have some potential. Their scale tends to be more realistic than GW’s heroic proportions which some prefer and you can always use realistic human hands on skinny models like elves or zons.

I will be keeping an eye on this to see what the models are like, if they are nice then it may be worth getting as $80 is a good deal for 4 teams.

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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:57 am 
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So far I have been massively underwhelmed by mantics mini's and its rip-offs of current GW lines.

I'm no GW fanboy and the only GW game i play is bloodbowl but as a gamer i'd like to see something a bit more original

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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:50 pm 
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I have to admit that I'm amazed Mantic is spending the time and money. The pie of market for fantasy football is so small now that I cannot see this game selling enough to cover their costs. We've been using KickStarter because the payback for projects for Impact! has been approaching 2 to 3 years (yes ALL the sales of an item don't match it cost to produce until about 2 to 3 years later).

June sales were so slow for us that I received a $0 paycheck from the company (effectly unemployed for the month). So consider me amazed that they spent the cost (which was CONSIDERABLE) to have plastic moulds made to go into this product area. I know Mantic is MUCH bigger than Impact! but I've had to apply for a job recently (which I still have not heard back on) because of all the folks trying to make money in the football arena to try and keep my mortgage paid. So color me 4 shades of cynical about Mantic being happy about how this project turns out for them.

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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:05 pm 
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spubbbba wrote:
*sigh*
Even tropics about non BB products get dragged into clawpomb debates on the 1st page now. :roll:

Not anymore it isn't.

If you want to discuss Clawpomb, then use a thread about it, don't clog up non-related threads.



On-topic, I hhave to echo Galak, I'm not sure there's the market out there for this - we already have Elfball, Grind(?) from PP plus others that I forget off-hand.
That said, I'll keep and eye out for it, if it's good, I might be interested, especially if it's an "all-in-one-box" release.

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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:32 pm 
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Plastic moulds? They could go with their restic thing (not polystyrene plastic, and moulds that allow undercuts like spin cast metal miniatures), and probably will if they do it like they have done table top space game (the marines vs ratmen one, Project Pandora). That sure is a lot less money up front than full metal moulds for high pressure injected plastic.


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 Post subject: Re: New "bowl" box by years end
 Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:57 am 
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Pics are starting to appear. And they are learning, the models are painted. There seem to be 3 models per team, 2 of each, making 6 players per side, with a cute robo-referee.


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