Orktober Iron Cup 2021 - 17 Oct 21 Holmfirth - RATMAN wins
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Orktober Iron Cup 2021 - 17 Oct 21 Holmfirth - RATMAN wins
The Holmfirth Gaming Centre in association with WYBBL presents..
Orktober Iron Cup 2021
NAF approved/ranked
General Information
Orktober Iron Cup II will be held on Sunday 17th October 2021 at Holmfirth Gaming Centre, 1 Miry Ln, New Mill, Thongsbridge, Holmfirth HD9 7HP. The venue has free parking, and food is available to purchase on site.
Game timings will be as follows:
10:45 to 11:00 Registration
11:00 to 13:15 Game One
13:15 to 13:45 Lunch
13:45 to 16:00 Game Two
16:00 to 16:15 Break
16:15 to 18:30 Game Three
18:30 to 19:00 Awards and close
Please note that in order to run the event to time, we may not be able to include anyone that arrives after the registration period has closed in the initial round one draw.
Entry costs and payment
• All coaches need to be NAF members.
• Entry cost is £10
• Any coaches that need sign up or renew their NAF membership can do so at an additional cost of £5 (payable directly to the NAF rep).
• Please send payments for tournament sign up by PayPal to holmfirthgamingcentre@gmail.com. Could you select the ‘gift’ or ‘paying a friend’ option so we don’t lose out on fees please?
• Due to previous issues, we will not be offering refunds, however we will try to help you sell your ticket on to another coach should the need arise.
• Rules queries (not payments) can be directed to the ref team stuartlegg4 (at) gmail (dot) com. Given the new nature of the rules we will be happy to check any rosters in advance of the event.
Rules
Orktober Iron Cup will be using current (Second Season) rules and NAF approved additions as follows.
• Blood Bowl Second Season Rulebook (SSRB)
• Current Teams of Legend from Warhammer Community Page
• NAF Rules for Tournaments (including Khorne and Slann teams)
• Star players from NAF sanctioned Spike! Magazines released since Second Season (Spike! 11 onwards)
• Note that the rules for Exhibition Play are being used (Second Season Rulebook pages 101-103)
• As we will be using “Resurrection” rules; coaches will play each match with the same starting roster and do not need to record SPPs or any ongoing injuries.
• Undead, Necromantic and Nurgle teams may gain an additional player as per the relevant “Masters of Undeath” or “Plague Ridden” rules but any players gained this way do not carry over to subsequent matches
• The ref team will be on hand to ensure rounds run to time and will advise of time remaining periodically throughout each round.
• Each player on your roster must be represented by an appropriate painted miniature. You do not need to have miniatures for coaching staff but of course may do so if you wish.
Rosters
Rosters are purchased with a treasury of 1,150,000 gold crowns as per the exhibition play rules on page 101.
Only the following inducements are permitted
(Your team must include at least 11 standard players before purchasing any inducements)
• 0-3 Bribes 100k each (50k for teams with the Bribery and Corruption special rule)
• 0-1 Riotous Rookies 100k (Ogre or Snotling teams only)
• 0-1 Halfling Master Chef 300k (100k for Halfling teams)
• 0-2 Star Players as per second season rulebook and subsequent spikes (11 onwards)
If two coaches are drawn against each other in the tournament with the same Star Player on their roster, then both coaches are permitted to use the Star (contrary to the normal rule).
Note: Akhorne the Squirrel is not permitted, neither are any other inducements not included on the list above
Additional Skills
Each team will be offered a skills package to enhance their players; this will be done using the published tier system. We may adjust this for future events once more data is available.
TIER 1: Amazons, Chaos Dwarves, Dark Elves, Dwarves, Humans, Lizardmen, Norse, Old World Alliance, Orcs, Shambling Undead, Skaven, Wood Elves
TIER 2: Black Orc, Chaos Chosen, Chaos Renegade, Daemons of Khorne, Elven Union, High Elves, Imperial Nobility, Necromantic Horror, Nurgle, Slann, Tomb Kings, Underworld Denizens, Vampires
TIER 3 (stunty): Goblin, Halfling, Ogres, Snotlings
The packages will be as follows:
TIER 1 = 3 primary skills
TIER 2 = 3 primary skills, and 1 secondary skill
TIER 3 (Stunty) = 4 primary skills, and 2 secondary skills
All skills are to be chosen and recorded prior to the tournament. Random skills are NOT allowed. Players may receive a maximum of one additional skill. You may choose to take primary skill(s) instead of secondary but you do not gain any additional allowance by doing so. There are no restrictions on skill duplication i.e. you may give multiple players the same skill if you wish. Star Players may not be given additional skills.
Games and Scoring
The first round will be drawn randomly, with all further rounds using the Swiss system. The overall winner will be the coach with the most points at the end of the day – there will be no final.
Points are scored as follows:
50 points for a win.
20 points for a draw.
0 points for a loss.
+1 Bonus point per touchdown (max 3 bonus points in each round)
+1 Bonus point per casualty (max 3 bonus points in each round)
Ties to be determined on the following (in order) Head to Head, Strength of Schedule, Combined TD and Casualty difference
Casualty score in this case is casualties from BLOCKING ONLY. Note that if a blocking player rolls an attacker down (skull) or both down result and is injured it counts as a casualty for the player they were trying to block.
Awards
Subject to sufficient sign ups we aim to give awards in the following categories
• Overall Winner
• Most CAS
• Most TDs
• Stunty Cup (highest placing stunty team)
• Wooden Spoon (last place)
Things To Bring With You
• A painted team.
• Your Blood Bowl board.
• Dice.
• Templates.
• Three roster sheets (one for the head ref, one for yourself and one for your opponent).
Covid-19 Safety measures
Note the current “roadmap out of lockdown” should see any Covid based restrictions removed long before the proposed date of this event. We are limiting the initial sign up numbers so that we can keep appropriate social distancing if needed. Once the registration is full we will open a reserve list and endeavour to let people know if can later re-open registration to more players.
• Initial sign ups will be capped at 24 for this event. We hope to be able to ease that restriction later. NOTE: Following discussion with HGC we have agreed that we will release this cap for the event,
• We MAY have to ask that coaches remain at their table until asked to move for games. This could include for introductions and awards.
• Food may have to be served on a table service basis.
• You MAY be required to supply track and trace information on arrival at the venue
• Please ensure you follow good hygiene practices and wash hands regularly
• Hand sanitiser will be available in the venue
• We won’t be handing out chess clocks but will try to ensure that the ref team are on hand to support with timekeeping
Rules clarifications.
Note some rules/interpretations are currently under active discussion, however the ref team would like to make their interpretation and intent on the following clear.
SSRB Page 27 “Falling Over” Please read "If a player Falls Over, a turnover is caused" as "If a player *on the active team* falls over, a turnover is caused". Reasoning: Under some very specific circumstances (e.g. on the ball skill) you may be able to move during your opponent’s turn. Having a player from the inactive team fall over will not cause a turnover in this way.
SSRB Page 130 & 133 "Two for One" (Grak and Crumbleberry/Swift Twins). This is not explicitly clarified but if both halves of a "Two for One" partnership become available again (e.g. recovery from KO) they will revert to their standard Loner 4+ trait. (note that you cannot use an apothecary on a star and there are currently no stars with this ability that can regenerate).
Teams of Legend. Tomb Kings Teams. Anointed Blitzers may take GENERAL (not agility) or Strength skills as primary. (This is now corrected in the latest Teams of Legend document linked below)
Useful links:
Teams of Legend (updated link)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp- ... B7QwND.pdf
NAF rules for Tournaments
https://www.thenaf.net/wp-content/uploa ... s-2021.pdf
Blood bowl “designers’ commentary” (updated link)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp- ... KG5hCE.pdf
Orktober Iron Cup 2021
NAF approved/ranked
General Information
Orktober Iron Cup II will be held on Sunday 17th October 2021 at Holmfirth Gaming Centre, 1 Miry Ln, New Mill, Thongsbridge, Holmfirth HD9 7HP. The venue has free parking, and food is available to purchase on site.
Game timings will be as follows:
10:45 to 11:00 Registration
11:00 to 13:15 Game One
13:15 to 13:45 Lunch
13:45 to 16:00 Game Two
16:00 to 16:15 Break
16:15 to 18:30 Game Three
18:30 to 19:00 Awards and close
Please note that in order to run the event to time, we may not be able to include anyone that arrives after the registration period has closed in the initial round one draw.
Entry costs and payment
• All coaches need to be NAF members.
• Entry cost is £10
• Any coaches that need sign up or renew their NAF membership can do so at an additional cost of £5 (payable directly to the NAF rep).
• Please send payments for tournament sign up by PayPal to holmfirthgamingcentre@gmail.com. Could you select the ‘gift’ or ‘paying a friend’ option so we don’t lose out on fees please?
• Due to previous issues, we will not be offering refunds, however we will try to help you sell your ticket on to another coach should the need arise.
• Rules queries (not payments) can be directed to the ref team stuartlegg4 (at) gmail (dot) com. Given the new nature of the rules we will be happy to check any rosters in advance of the event.
Rules
Orktober Iron Cup will be using current (Second Season) rules and NAF approved additions as follows.
• Blood Bowl Second Season Rulebook (SSRB)
• Current Teams of Legend from Warhammer Community Page
• NAF Rules for Tournaments (including Khorne and Slann teams)
• Star players from NAF sanctioned Spike! Magazines released since Second Season (Spike! 11 onwards)
• Note that the rules for Exhibition Play are being used (Second Season Rulebook pages 101-103)
• As we will be using “Resurrection” rules; coaches will play each match with the same starting roster and do not need to record SPPs or any ongoing injuries.
• Undead, Necromantic and Nurgle teams may gain an additional player as per the relevant “Masters of Undeath” or “Plague Ridden” rules but any players gained this way do not carry over to subsequent matches
• The ref team will be on hand to ensure rounds run to time and will advise of time remaining periodically throughout each round.
• Each player on your roster must be represented by an appropriate painted miniature. You do not need to have miniatures for coaching staff but of course may do so if you wish.
Rosters
Rosters are purchased with a treasury of 1,150,000 gold crowns as per the exhibition play rules on page 101.
Only the following inducements are permitted
(Your team must include at least 11 standard players before purchasing any inducements)
• 0-3 Bribes 100k each (50k for teams with the Bribery and Corruption special rule)
• 0-1 Riotous Rookies 100k (Ogre or Snotling teams only)
• 0-1 Halfling Master Chef 300k (100k for Halfling teams)
• 0-2 Star Players as per second season rulebook and subsequent spikes (11 onwards)
If two coaches are drawn against each other in the tournament with the same Star Player on their roster, then both coaches are permitted to use the Star (contrary to the normal rule).
Note: Akhorne the Squirrel is not permitted, neither are any other inducements not included on the list above
Additional Skills
Each team will be offered a skills package to enhance their players; this will be done using the published tier system. We may adjust this for future events once more data is available.
TIER 1: Amazons, Chaos Dwarves, Dark Elves, Dwarves, Humans, Lizardmen, Norse, Old World Alliance, Orcs, Shambling Undead, Skaven, Wood Elves
TIER 2: Black Orc, Chaos Chosen, Chaos Renegade, Daemons of Khorne, Elven Union, High Elves, Imperial Nobility, Necromantic Horror, Nurgle, Slann, Tomb Kings, Underworld Denizens, Vampires
TIER 3 (stunty): Goblin, Halfling, Ogres, Snotlings
The packages will be as follows:
TIER 1 = 3 primary skills
TIER 2 = 3 primary skills, and 1 secondary skill
TIER 3 (Stunty) = 4 primary skills, and 2 secondary skills
All skills are to be chosen and recorded prior to the tournament. Random skills are NOT allowed. Players may receive a maximum of one additional skill. You may choose to take primary skill(s) instead of secondary but you do not gain any additional allowance by doing so. There are no restrictions on skill duplication i.e. you may give multiple players the same skill if you wish. Star Players may not be given additional skills.
Games and Scoring
The first round will be drawn randomly, with all further rounds using the Swiss system. The overall winner will be the coach with the most points at the end of the day – there will be no final.
Points are scored as follows:
50 points for a win.
20 points for a draw.
0 points for a loss.
+1 Bonus point per touchdown (max 3 bonus points in each round)
+1 Bonus point per casualty (max 3 bonus points in each round)
Ties to be determined on the following (in order) Head to Head, Strength of Schedule, Combined TD and Casualty difference
Casualty score in this case is casualties from BLOCKING ONLY. Note that if a blocking player rolls an attacker down (skull) or both down result and is injured it counts as a casualty for the player they were trying to block.
Awards
Subject to sufficient sign ups we aim to give awards in the following categories
• Overall Winner
• Most CAS
• Most TDs
• Stunty Cup (highest placing stunty team)
• Wooden Spoon (last place)
Things To Bring With You
• A painted team.
• Your Blood Bowl board.
• Dice.
• Templates.
• Three roster sheets (one for the head ref, one for yourself and one for your opponent).
Covid-19 Safety measures
Note the current “roadmap out of lockdown” should see any Covid based restrictions removed long before the proposed date of this event. We are limiting the initial sign up numbers so that we can keep appropriate social distancing if needed. Once the registration is full we will open a reserve list and endeavour to let people know if can later re-open registration to more players.
• Initial sign ups will be capped at 24 for this event. We hope to be able to ease that restriction later. NOTE: Following discussion with HGC we have agreed that we will release this cap for the event,
• We MAY have to ask that coaches remain at their table until asked to move for games. This could include for introductions and awards.
• Food may have to be served on a table service basis.
• You MAY be required to supply track and trace information on arrival at the venue
• Please ensure you follow good hygiene practices and wash hands regularly
• Hand sanitiser will be available in the venue
• We won’t be handing out chess clocks but will try to ensure that the ref team are on hand to support with timekeeping
Rules clarifications.
Note some rules/interpretations are currently under active discussion, however the ref team would like to make their interpretation and intent on the following clear.
SSRB Page 27 “Falling Over” Please read "If a player Falls Over, a turnover is caused" as "If a player *on the active team* falls over, a turnover is caused". Reasoning: Under some very specific circumstances (e.g. on the ball skill) you may be able to move during your opponent’s turn. Having a player from the inactive team fall over will not cause a turnover in this way.
SSRB Page 130 & 133 "Two for One" (Grak and Crumbleberry/Swift Twins). This is not explicitly clarified but if both halves of a "Two for One" partnership become available again (e.g. recovery from KO) they will revert to their standard Loner 4+ trait. (note that you cannot use an apothecary on a star and there are currently no stars with this ability that can regenerate).
Teams of Legend. Tomb Kings Teams. Anointed Blitzers may take GENERAL (not agility) or Strength skills as primary. (This is now corrected in the latest Teams of Legend document linked below)
Useful links:
Teams of Legend (updated link)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp- ... B7QwND.pdf
NAF rules for Tournaments
https://www.thenaf.net/wp-content/uploa ... s-2021.pdf
Blood bowl “designers’ commentary” (updated link)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp- ... KG5hCE.pdf
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Re: Orktober Iron Cup 2021 - 17 Oct 21 Holmfirth
attendee list
0 Spleggy (head ref)
0 TomMonstrosity (ref/spare man)
0 Jay (spare man)
1 NodgeFodgekins *paid*
2 Scouseboy *paid*
3 Littleleadperson *paid*
4 Lamour *paid*
5 Miserable *paid*
6 Seg *paid*
7 Chilli *paid*
8 Darkthrone *paid*
9 TheGngrNoob *paid*
10 Zoglug *paid*
11 porkscratching *paid*
14 Molo *paid*
18 forgotmyteam *paid*
19 Firebreather *paid*
20 dfunkateer *paid*
21 Wobert *paid*
22 Dafo *paid*
23 Richy *paid*
24 Ste *paid*
25 ??? *paid*
26 tomnotts *paid*
27 mlaycock *paid*
28 Thor87 *paid*
29 Ratman *paid*
30 cammstainton210116 *paid*
31 yorcie (29053) *paid*
32 jmfing *paid*
33 Epicmouse *paid*
34 Widram *paid*
Note we have a sign up from one person, initials PM for who we don't yet know the NAF details, please get in touch!
not attending
12 Waldorf *paid*
13 AngryGerbil *paid*
15 Valen *paid*
16 Cam *paid*
17 Bill *paid*
0 Spleggy (head ref)
0 TomMonstrosity (ref/spare man)
0 Jay (spare man)
1 NodgeFodgekins *paid*
2 Scouseboy *paid*
3 Littleleadperson *paid*
4 Lamour *paid*
5 Miserable *paid*
6 Seg *paid*
7 Chilli *paid*
8 Darkthrone *paid*
9 TheGngrNoob *paid*
10 Zoglug *paid*
11 porkscratching *paid*
14 Molo *paid*
18 forgotmyteam *paid*
19 Firebreather *paid*
20 dfunkateer *paid*
21 Wobert *paid*
22 Dafo *paid*
23 Richy *paid*
24 Ste *paid*
25 ??? *paid*
26 tomnotts *paid*
27 mlaycock *paid*
28 Thor87 *paid*
29 Ratman *paid*
30 cammstainton210116 *paid*
31 yorcie (29053) *paid*
32 jmfing *paid*
33 Epicmouse *paid*
34 Widram *paid*
Note we have a sign up from one person, initials PM for who we don't yet know the NAF details, please get in touch!
not attending
12 Waldorf *paid*
13 AngryGerbil *paid*
15 Valen *paid*
16 Cam *paid*
17 Bill *paid*
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Re: Orktober Iron Cup 2021 - 17 Oct 21 Holmfirth
There seems to be an issue with HGC paypal, I have asked them to check back with me asap
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Re: Orktober Iron Cup 2021 - 17 Oct 21 Holmfirth
Sign me up too and James Mould
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Re: Orktober Iron Cup 2021 - 17 Oct 21 Holmfirth
Could you sign me up, please
I'll PayPal it once it's back open (Chilli will give me a shout)
I'll PayPal it once it's back open (Chilli will give me a shout)
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Re: Orktober Iron Cup 2021 - 17 Oct 21 Holmfirth
Zog lug would like to sign up too but is having TFF issues
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Porkscratching wants to sign up too.
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Re: Orktober Iron Cup 2021 - 17 Oct 21 Holmfirth
Please sign up Waldorf and AngryGerbil. Payment sent.
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