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Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:43 pm
by Lord Bojo
If the kick-off event is Blitz, is it possible to activate the Ball&Chain player ?

On one Side, this is a special action, so the answer is NO
On the other side, this is a kind of movement, so the answer is YES.

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:04 pm
by lunchmoney
Blitz is limited to Move Action and the B&C player is limited to 'Ball & Chain Move ’Special action.
I'd say no.

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:03 am
by Barney the Lurker
lunchmoney wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:04 pm Blitz is limited to Move Action and the B&C player is limited to 'Ball & Chain Move ’Special action.
I'd say no.
I'd Agree

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:40 pm
by Lord Bojo
Thx for answers

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 2:19 pm
by jawCross
This question can be generalized: Is that list exhaustive?

So player can make:
  • Move action
  • Blitz action (one)
  • Throw Team-mate action (one)
Can't make:
  • No any Special Action.
  • No Foul action.
  • Trivially no Pass action or Hand-off action because there are no ball in the game (not yet landed).
  • And no Block action (because player must be Open).
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Whole Blitz! has been changed since BB2016 when Coach played every player not-marked when Blitz! started, so if Blitz action moved opposition player to the reach of Block, also Block actions were allowed.

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 3:36 pm
by lunchmoney
What? I'm not seeing the relevance to the OPs question or Second Season rules. Can you elaborate?

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 4:18 pm
by jawCross
After re-reading the original question I understand the question was about "kind of movement" VS "Move action".

I have personally been struggling what changed between BB2016 and BB2020, e.g. how Blitz!-event is played on Second Season. Because that, I misunderstood this question for being: What are allowed/disallowed actions in Blitz!-event? And then I figured every possible actions in the game and classified them allowed/disallowed in Blitz!

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 4:51 pm
by lunchmoney
Aha, fair enough 👍

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 6:09 pm
by jawCross
And after all I'm still not sure can use Chainsaw Attack Special action inside of Blitz action when Blitz!-event happens. I think it is allowed, because you are allowed to make Blitz action.

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 9:26 pm
by Centipede
What about throwing a bomb?

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:43 am
by lunchmoney
Centipede wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 9:26 pm What about throwing a bomb?
Ball and Chain can't throw a bomb.

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:19 pm
by Centipede
lunchmoney wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:43 am
Centipede wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 9:26 pm What about throwing a bomb?
Ball and Chain can't throw a bomb.
LOL

I meant what about throwing a bomb during a Blitz kick-off event

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:39 pm
by lunchmoney
Centipede wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:19 pm
lunchmoney wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:43 am
Centipede wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 9:26 pm What about throwing a bomb?
Ball and Chain can't throw a bomb.
LOL

I meant what about throwing a bomb during a Blitz kick-off event
Can't do that, either.

Re: Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:50 pm
by Papa Sebco
I would also answer NO for all special actions during a Blitz event (so for Ball & Chain special action and for Throw Bomb special action).

In Kick-Off Event Table, page 41, for Blitz event, this is stated that are only available during a Blitz event "Move actions", "1 Blitz action" and "1 Throw Team Mate action".
All other actions aren't listed.

All available actions during game are listed page 43 :
-Move
-Pass
-Hand-Off
-Throw Team-Mate
-Block
-Blitz
-Foul
-Special actions

I agree with jawCross, the ones which aren't listed in Blitz event description aren't available during a Blitz event. So no Pass, no Hand-Off, no Block, no Foul and no Special actions. ;)