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Idea for block assists

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:36 pm
by alexelf
What do people think of assists only counting if the player assisting is in both tackle zones of the blocker, and the blocked player (and outside other tackle zones)?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:52 am
by Skummy
It would put a lot more emphasis on the importance of a slow, grinding game, and be a large benefit to teams with 4 ST or easy Guard access.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:53 am
by MadLordAnarchy
Seems like an excellent idea to me, it encourages movement in formation and tight packs instead and will force more in-depth strategy on offence.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:22 am
by alexelf
MadLordAnarchy wrote:Seems like an excellent idea to me, it encourages movement in formation and tight packs instead and will force more in-depth strategy on offence.
So it encourages cage like formations, and is biased towards strength teams?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:05 am
by plasmoid
Hi Alexelf,
it severely cuts down on the maximum number of assists.
On a standard rules block, you can get 8 assists.
On on a straight block under your rules, you can only get 4.
Andn on a diagonal block under your rules, you can only get 2.

It will make ST even more important.
Martin

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:40 pm
by Snorri
I agree!
The rule makes strenght teams mightier. While making it almost impossible for stuntys to beat the sh*t out of a black orc or something like that!

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:11 pm
by alexelf
It's just an idea, I thought it would make more sense, as you don't block someone from two sides, you only really block them from one direction in American Football.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:20 pm
by Duke Jan
But you can stick out your foot to let someone trip over it who's being pushed towards you (he may just be trying to shift a leg and you kick it from under him).

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:54 am
by MadLordAnarchy
Duke Jan wrote:But you can stick out your foot to let someone trip over it who's being pushed towards you (he may just be trying to shift a leg and you kick it from under him).
That specific example is covered in the Blood Bowl rules by the need to dodge.

The advantage of this rule is that it requires tighter formations so it is arguably more difficult for strength teams as they won't be able to spread as far for their cages. It places greater emphasis on out-maneouvering your opponent which I see as the key aspect of tactical BB.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:21 am
by alexelf
I half agree with Mad Lord about the tripping, but I'm not sure if he's correct in saying it doesn't help ST teams, not unless there was another rule that balanced things out.

@Duke Jan - I have the same t-shirt as you (the one you're using a photo of as your avatar)

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:23 am
by MadLordAnarchy
alexelf wrote:I half agree with Mad Lord about the tripping, but I'm not sure if he's correct in saying it doesn't help ST teams, not unless there was another rule that balanced things out.
I have plenty of rules to balance everything out. :)

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:30 am
by alexelf
:D So you don't think it would work as a standalone house rule.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:01 pm
by MadLordAnarchy
I don't know, I'm sure that if you combined it with a House Rule that altered the way pushbacks work so that opponents and empty squares have equal priority it would work perfectly. As a stand-alone rule I think it's better than the official rules but then I don't think much of most official rules.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:10 pm
by alexelf
change the way pushbacks work - what do you mean by treating empty squares equally with enemy players?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:10 am
by Hache
alexelf wrote:you don't block someone from two sides, you only really block them from one direction in American Football.
I don't know american football, but I think block in BB and american football arent not the same thing. Block in BB is more like "you, get the right arm, you the left, I bash him 3 or 4 times, and you release him" IMHO.

Hache