The Undead Team.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 5:43 pm

Yer they are great for one season but after you have played a fiar number of games chaos warriors and black orcs have gotten block guard mightyblow and they also stick an ogre in there, all of a sudden your front line isn't the powerhouse it was early on

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:37 pm

True...that season was their rookie season.

The same goes for the dwarves, there are a few posts out there about the dwarves being too powerful but the same principal of "opponent skill gain" creeps up on the dwarves and they are no longer the skill powerhouse when compared to other experienced teams.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 11:11 pm

Too right. I love seeing Mummies destroy these front lines. Its like taking candy from a baby.

Chaos Dwarf · Post by **Chaos Dwarf** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 12:52 am

I don't play Undead myself but after playing them many times I would hate to see Ghouls disapear from the game. I know everybody loves killing a ghouls just because he has no apothecary!

And I'll second the idea that CD's don't need BG's. It ruins the 'spirit' of the team.

MistWraith · Post by **MistWraith** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 1:00 am

As I have said many times
NO TEAM NEEDS BIG GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This includes Chaos Dwarfs. However, that is not a good reason to take away the Big guys they do have. It is not like having a BG overpowers them. They usualy do better without one.

And having them fits perfectly with the fluff and spirt of the team.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:19 pm

Say that again, I'm a bit confused Mist Wraith....!

MistWraith · Post by **MistWraith** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:23 pm

As I have said many times
NO TEAM NEEDS BIG GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This includes Chaos Dwarfs. However, that is not a good reason to take away the Big guys they do have. It is not like having a BG overpowers them. They usualy do better without one.

And having them fits perfectly with the fluff and spirt of the team.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:27 pm

You can't write that in bigger print can you, I'm still a bit unclear!

MistWraith · Post by **MistWraith** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:34 pm

Shure, but it will be a clip art image.

Post by **Thadrin** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:58 pm

Mistwraith is right. NO team needs BGs...with the exception of Stunty teams.

They should be available as Fluffy alternatives and nothing more (do I need to post the link AGAIN?)

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 7:01 pm

Don't worry...someone else will bring it up again anyway...

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 7:11 pm

I would still like to see BG's available in teams, as they are part of the WarHammer World. I don't want to field a team of Ogres or Minotars, one is sufficient, but they should be about. If you feel they unbalance a team, don't field them.

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 7:23 pm

We had a league that allowed up to 2 BGs per team...we cut that back using the new rules for BGs and it has greatly influenced the game (for the better I believe). With their negtraits, not allowing them to use team rerolls, and not allowing negtrait removal makes their presence (in most situations) very controlled.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 7:33 pm

I agree. The current LRB rules on BG's are spot on. The only debate should be whether all teams are allowed them.

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 7:36 pm

I really don't have any problems with the lists the way they are currently set up...though it is strange that the dwarves do have an Ogre (I'd rather see a Death Roller BG in it's place).