0 Turn TD

Post by **Dave** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 10:24 pm

I have actually scored with the ball getting into the endzone where one of my 'flings eehh flew into, sort off.

The big debate was when you declare using the Kick skill.

We voted that you say before the actually kick, the placement of the ball, and thus before the KO table, and thus before any moves made during the blitz.

I used kick so the ball ended up 2 squares short of my poor 'fling. (whom died afterward while being dozerbladed into the audience.

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Relborn · Post by **Relborn** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 10:53 pm

Sorry I can't find anything about the ball in the air thing during a blitz -
can anybody kindly help me out please ?

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 10:58 pm

Its in the section above the kick off table, you kick it, while its in the air you resolve the kickoff table result then you land the ball, which is normally a bounce.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:54 pm

Oops, i got it wrong. The guys are right, it's impossible to score on turn zero. I must have confused this with the many times i've killed an opposing player on that turn, or got one of mine killed. That's not uncommon.

horekim · Post by **horekim** » Tue Nov 05, 2002 9:36 am

ianwilliams wrote:
horekim wrote:The result of the kick-off table is resolved while the ball is in the air. Therefore it is impossible to score in turn zero.
You are right in this instance, but it is possible if the ball lands in the endzone.

Ian

well, it's not impossible, however unlikely...

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Tue Nov 05, 2002 9:46 am

It's possible assuming you placed some of your guys in the end zone hoping for a good bounce. Since i would never put my players next to the crowd like that before the game even starts, and neither would anyone i play against, it is indeed impossible for us.

horekim · Post by **horekim** » Tue Nov 05, 2002 10:09 am

Generely I wouldn't use this tactic either because it's not very reliable, but in desperate situations where you have nothing to lose, I would certainly go for it. Don't see why not.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Tue Nov 05, 2002 11:19 am

It is hard - but not impossible.

With the kick skill you can control the end location of the kick a lot better - so you could just place the ball in the endzone and then hope for it to either not scatter {1/6} or go sideways {5/6 * 2/8} which is 37.5%. Without kick its a straight 25% chance. Then you only need to get a 'fling under the ball for a chance to catch it.

The difficult part is getting the blitz (3/36) - and to have placed the ball the endzone where there is a good chance of a touchback.

So this is probably an end of half play where you haven't got any turns remaining - and your opponent doesn't have a 1 turn TD capability.

Ian

Longshot · Post by **Longshot** » Tue Nov 05, 2002 12:35 pm

yep, but still possible

Coach Barry · Post by **Coach Barry** » Tue Nov 05, 2002 11:36 pm

Who cares how hard it is? It's possible and in desperate situations will be used by many, some might eventually score that one, unforgettable TD!!

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed Nov 06, 2002 1:03 am

So in theory you could end up 10+ to nil down before the game even starts?

Not likely to ever happen but a statisical chance?

CoachGorbad · Post by **CoachGorbad** » Wed Nov 06, 2002 4:31 am

Shouldn't happen. Ball still in the air. We scatter it but don't bounce it and only if you can get under it do you have a chance to catch the ball. And even if you do catch it, its not your turn to move, so expect that enterprising swiftfooted catcher to get a foot in the grill for stepping into my backfield.

P.S. Please come stand in my endzone when its time to throw licks. You'll just earn yourself a seat in the stands and my fans are very territorial.

martynq · Post by **martynq** » Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:56 am

CoachGorbad wrote:Shouldn't happen. Ball still in the air. We scatter it but don't bounce it and only if you can get under it do you have a chance to catch the ball. And even if you do catch it, its not your turn to move, so expect that enterprising swiftfooted catcher to get a foot in the grill for stepping into my backfield.

It's worth noting that this is probably the wrong the way to play it. If you compare with the rule that says you can score during your opponent's turn (if you are blocked and pushed into the endzone without being knocked over, for example), then I'd say you don't need it to be your turn to actually score the TD in the above example. (As pointed out, though, you need to be extremely lucky!)

Cheers,
Martyn

woodnoggin · Post by **woodnoggin** » Wed Nov 06, 2002 12:09 pm

Reminds me of the game Poison Wynd (Skaven) played against the Slaaneshi Bastards (Chaos Halflings). Poison Wynd had just scored in the second half and were now kicking to the Bastards. I rolled a blitz. By this stage in the game I was confidently setting up score-in-a-turn Gutter Runners on the front line, so one of them ran for the ball and scored. We set up again, I rolled another blitz, so the same Gutter Runner ran and scored again. Hence three TDs scored in the same turn. I scored 15 times that game and conceded none. Great days...