Gnoll Team and new Trait idea

McDeth · Post by **McDeth** » Wed May 07, 2003 11:39 am

If your going down the Guard route it has to be ST2, with ST 3 and MA7 they'd be a nightmare to play against

DaImp · Post by **DaImp** » Wed May 07, 2003 12:13 pm

str 2 with Guard @ 60k. BUT then I think the Alpha Male has to keep the +1 strength.

DaImp · Post by **DaImp** » Wed May 07, 2003 12:28 pm

even with str 2 these guys are still going to be a difficult team to get 2 dice blocks on. Plus it does force the coach to play using pack tactics.
I think it makes for a good concept team. And they can never have Big Guys... ever, or Star PLayers (just not in the pack nature).

That said I understand Phil's rationale behind giving the players strip ball (and str 3) and I can accept that as a possible route for the team as well. Personally I think I still prefer the str 2 guard route though.

Either way I like this team

I think I am going to have to buy some Gnolls from you Phil. I was intending to use them as beastmen alternatives for a Chaos team... but maybe now I will be able to get 2 team variations for the price of 1.....

DaImp · Post by **DaImp** » Wed May 07, 2003 12:39 pm

Pitch Dark wrote:so maybe one more skill, like dodge, or dirty player.

I think one skill is more than enough, especially if it is a powerful skill like Guard.

Pitch Dark · Post by **Pitch Dark** » Wed May 07, 2003 5:18 pm

Im also feeling the urge to by those damn fine minis.. but I have succeeded to hold back this far, really dont have the money to spend. But they would be great beastmen.

Skip the second skill then, if we follow the Alpha Male route, maybe he could have dodge instead of strength, or maybe both. It would require some game-testing before one knows how it would work.

Personally I dont think that one player with streanght 3 would be too powerful, since that would be only one block or blitz per turn. And with no assists it would be futile, so it would have to be planned carefully. But if you plan well, it would be like having a big guy, wich could work as beeing the replacment of one.

Also, what would happen if the Alpha Male got injured or knocked out? Nothing, or would the rest of the pack battle for his position?

mrinprophet · Post by **mrinprophet** » Wed May 07, 2003 5:31 pm

If the alpha male leaves the field, then the leader reroll is unavailable, if it hasn't been used.

phil · Post by **phil** » Wed May 07, 2003 5:37 pm

definitely, the alpha rule will only work if it is only adjusted between games.... otherwise the accounting burden is just too complicated...

BlanchPrez · Post by **BlanchPrez** » Wed May 07, 2003 5:43 pm

So here's what we have so far, right?

Gnoll 7237 Gaurd 70K General
RR 60K
Alpha Male rule (not going to re-post it here).

How's this for another position player?

Gnoll Pup 8137 Sure Hands (not sure on price)

Not being a full grown adult, gnoll pup's are not elegable for the Alpha Male rule.

Chris

Thetian · Post by **Thetian** » Wed May 07, 2003 5:48 pm

I hate to break it to you guys, but hyenas have a matriarchal society. That's right it's an Alpha Female we should be talking about.

BlanchPrez · Post by **BlanchPrez** » Wed May 07, 2003 5:50 pm

Thetian wrote:I hate to break it to you guys, but hyenas have a matriarchal society. That's right it's an Alpha Female we should be talking about.

That's why she's the head coach!

Chris

phil · Post by **phil** » Wed May 07, 2003 6:00 pm

BlanchPrez wrote:Gnoll 7237 Gaurd 70K General
RR 60K

actually, 70 is way too high... by individual cost, you're looking at closer to 40k (based on your opinion of the relative price of guard)... figure that you can adjust up slightly for the power of universal guard and toss in a rounder for the alpha rule and call them 50k...

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Wed May 07, 2003 6:01 pm

How about a vanilla team with a little movement on the lineman? I see it as a version of the 'Zon and Norse teams, only they get the Alpha Male and lineman movement instead of everyone having block or dodge.

Gnoll Thrower 6 3 3 8 Sure Hands (Pass, General) 70,000
Gnoll Catcher 6 3 3 7 Catch (General, Agility) 70,000
Gnoll Blitzer 6 3 3 8 Block (General, Strength) 90,000
Gnoll Lineman 7 3 3 8 (General) 60,000

mrinprophet · Post by **mrinprophet** » Wed May 07, 2003 6:03 pm

BlanchPrez wrote:So here's what we have so far, right?

Gnoll 7237 Gaurd 70K General
RR 60K
Alpha Male rule (not going to re-post it here).

I think that the 7 3 3 7 Strip Ball, 60k, G
with 60k rerolls also has merit. Alpha male rule is applicable.
I'd also edit the alpha male rule such that the Gnoll with the highest SPPs stays the alpha (+1St, Leader) until another Gnoll has MORE than he has. This way, there will always be an alpha male around.

BlanchPrez · Post by **BlanchPrez** » Wed May 07, 2003 6:03 pm

phil wrote:
BlanchPrez wrote:Gnoll 7237 Gaurd 70K General
RR 60K
actually, 70 is way too high... by individual cost, you're looking at closer to 40k (based on your opinion of the relative price of guard)... figure that you can adjust up slightly for the power of universal guard and toss in a rounder for the alpha rule and call them 50k...

Oh, sorry, I thought I saw 70K posted somewhere else.. maybe it was an older version.

Chris

phil · Post by **phil** » Wed May 07, 2003 6:06 pm

it's accurate for str3, which is where we started...

which is more "hyena", 6238 or 7237?