Which Team List is better ?

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sat May 17, 2003 12:43 am

Another problem I can see with your roster idea Toby, is that by adding the BG's to the list, some people (powergamers/beardies/newbies) might think they can take, for example, a 2nd Ogre on a human team if they get the "that boy's got talent" handicap roll, which alows any player position from the roster.

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Sat May 17, 2003 12:53 am

That's a good point Darkson, and I didn't even think of it. But, since this change is suppose to take place with the complete overhaul of the entire LRB, in the attempt to have it make more sense, you could add the line in the HC table to the applicable entry that says "except for Big Guys."

Asperon Thorn

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Sat May 17, 2003 1:15 am

boah, I misse my own topic ^^

ok, once more, you cannot add the: 0-12 or max#12

Because, the max only applies to the POSITION.
so, there would be 0-1 Ogre AND 0-1 TROLL on a Orc team...

you MUST say 1 Blocker (Big Guy, Monster, Milk Man whatever ^^)
and then, the LIST says you can choose Ogre OR Troll for Blocker slot.

BTW, Darkson, excelent Point, I wasnt aware of that.
(thats one of the things you hav to change the LRB, and maybe even ALLOW a second Big Guy...)

Post by **Thadrin** » Sat May 17, 2003 6:28 am

NO MORE SMEGGING BIG GUYS.

And you just KNOW that were you put 0-1 Ogre AND 0-1 Troll on the team list you'd get people with both.

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Sat May 17, 2003 6:56 am

Darkson wrote:Another problem I can see with your roster idea Toby, is that by adding the BG's to the list, some people (powergamers/beardies/newbies) might think they can take, for example, a 2nd Ogre on a human team if they get the "that boy's got talent" handicap roll, which alows any player position from the roster.

Thadrin... thats rubbish ! Read Darksons post. ah whatever.

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Mon May 19, 2003 4:01 pm

The LRB makes it quite clear that you may only have one big guy on your team. It goes on to make it quite clear on which teams are the exceptions. Furthermore, the LRB makes it quite clear on what player/race/positions/whatever are Big Guys.

However, if you wanted to be specific, in your re-writing process, you could also make it quite clear that teams offered more than one big guy do not get more than one big guy, unless they are one of the exceptions. Or make it look like this:

Code: Select all

Position   M|S|A|AV  Skills,Traits & Specials  Cost Category Max# 
----------------------------------------------------------------- 
<Blah blah blah, the rest of the Human team inserted here>
Ogre       5|5|2|9   Bone Head, Thick Skull    120K GE,ST      1* 
                     Mighty Blow, TTM, Big Guy

*Only allowed one big guy on this team

You can then put an asterix on multiple big guys if offered.

Asperon Thorn

[edit]Mispelling, of course[/edit]

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Mon May 19, 2003 4:04 pm

One thing I haven't seen mentioned here is the "That Boy's Got Talent" handicap. As it stands now, the Undead or Khemri can get an extra mummy with this handicap, but normal rosters are denied a second big guy becasue they aren't on the roster. It's small thing, but it bugs me.

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Mon May 19, 2003 5:44 pm

Actually on the very top of this very page, Darkson mentions it.

Asperon Thorn

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Mon May 19, 2003 5:50 pm

That's what I get for reading ahead. Playing against 5 Khemri Mummies does sound like hell, though.

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Mon May 19, 2003 6:21 pm

Skummy wrote:Playing against 5 Khemri Mummies does sound like hell, though.

Couldn't agree with you more, there. Fortunately, I don't image it happening too often.

Asperon Thorn

Post by **Thadrin** » Mon May 19, 2003 6:25 pm

Toby wrote: Thadrin... thats rubbish ! Read Darksons post. ah whatever.

I know its rubbish, you know its rubbish...mr cheesy powergamer will find a hole in the rules to slot it in. They always do.

maybe I'm just too damned cynical.

Munkey · Post by **Munkey** » Mon May 19, 2003 9:26 pm

You can never be cynical enough when it comes to cheesy powergamers.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Mon May 19, 2003 10:37 pm

Cheesy powergamers

All loopholes must be closed.

Off-topic, but we were convinced one of our clbmates had measured the freckles on his arm to measure distances

Munkey · Post by **Munkey** » Tue May 20, 2003 6:33 pm

Darkson wrote:Cheesy powergamers

All loopholes must be closed.

Off-topic, but we were convinced one of our clbmates had measured the freckles on his arm to measure distances

Words escape me! I've heard some bad storys of cheesy powergamers (and seen them in action) but that really is the worst.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed May 21, 2003 4:36 am

Never used to help him though, he'd still lose

He also had this skill for "dropping" or "sliding" dice on the table, so he'd get the number he wanted. First we brought him a shaker, then some electronic dice

After losing again, he recently quit

. I wonder why?