Blitz/Pass?

dakkakhan · Post by **dakkakhan** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:31 am

I'm pretty sure you can do this, but I'm having trouble finding the rule that explains it.

I was spectating a game and a High elf dragon Warrior blitzed, threw a block at a player that had a tacklezone on the ball Which was on the ground, that same player then dodged into the space with the ball, picked it up, and passed it out of there to end the player's turn. Is that legal?

From what I'm reading it may not be.

Do you declare a pass action before you even have the ball?

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:36 am

Right each pleyer on your team may perform one action and one action only per team turn. Now a blitz is an action and a pass is an action. This means that a single player can not do both a blitz and a pass in the same turn. This is now also the same with hand offs seeing as they are now an action.

So no you can't blitz someone then pick the ball up and throw it with the same player in the same turn.

dakkakhan · Post by **dakkakhan** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:50 am

So do you declare a pass action before you start dodging into tacklezones to get the ball?

I suppose a failed pass action doesn't result in a turnover, only a failed pass i.e. a dropped pass. Is that right?

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:54 am

You declare a Pass, Blitz, Hand-Off or Foul action before moving the player at all.

Evil Git · Post by **Evil Git** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:10 am

But surely if you don't have the ball at the start of your movement then you don't say that you'll make the passing play.

It just seems a tad wrong imho.

Of course i'm probably totally wrong here though

McDeth · Post by **McDeth** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:24 am

Doesn't matter whether you have the ball or not if you want to make a pass action with that player that turn, you have to declare it before moving the player

dakkakhan · Post by **dakkakhan** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:28 am

But it doesn't result in a turnover does it?

Turnover definition is:
The ball is passed and not caught by a player from the moving team.

What if you dodge in there and fail, but have stand firm for example? You have declared a pass that did not result in a throw, let alone a player from your team catching it.

Not nit-picking, I just play orcs and Chaos Dwarves so throwing is not normally in my vocabulary.

Thanks,

Dakkakhan

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:29 am

Yes you declair your going to attempt the pass with that player even if he doesn't have the ball yet. This means that if he moves to the ball to pick it up and then fails you lose your pass action, though seeing as you failed the pick up its a TO anyway ;]

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:48 am

dakkakhan wrote:But it doesn't result in a turnover does it?

Turnover definition is:
The ball is passed and not caught by a player from the moving team.

What if you dodge in there and fail, but have stand firm for example? You have declared a pass that did not result in a throw, let alone a player from your team catching it.

Not nit-picking, I just play orcs and Chaos Dwarves so throwing is not normally in my vocabulary.

Thanks,

Dakkakhan

This is why you declare before doing anything! If you declare a Pass or Blitz and have to use Stand Firm on a failed Dodge then your Blitz or Pass action is used for the turn. Likewise you declare a Blitz action before rolling Bonehead, if you fail the Bonehead roll then your Blitz action is used. None of the above result in a turnover, it's all pretty clear in the LRB.

Evil Git · Post by **Evil Git** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:58 am

i knew that about the blitzes but not about the passes

oh well i'll know for next time.

every day is a school day

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Poul

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i wish i did.

Just did a search on google for american football and thought it looked funny.

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Poul

Piepgrass · Post by **Piepgrass** » Sun Nov 10, 2002 6:44 am

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Just pm or mail me with your price.

Poul

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