0-12 Lineman

Mirascael · Post by **Mirascael** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:43 am

Is there any reason why teams are only allowed a maximum of 12 linemen, -dwarves, elves etc.?
Why isn't that number 0-16?
I'm just curious.

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:03 am

I asked this question recently and got a good answer, so I guess I'll pass it on. I was told that it was because of the team discount coming out of the lineman positon. So in theory you could abuse this by having a team of 16 lineman and your team would in reality be much better then the money you paid for them. The only teams I can really see abusing this would be elf teams, but it makes since.

MistWraith · Post by **MistWraith** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:21 am

Most teams receive their discount, from their positional players and big guys. Elf linemen at 70k are very expensive, and do not receive a discount. This is one of the weaknesses of the elf teams.

For a look at how each team gets it's discount look on Galak's site http://www.blood-bowl.net/BBTeamCostAnalysis.htm. You will see that it is positional players in most cases that get the discount.

The reason why you are limited to 12 line types, is simply a design choice by the creators.

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:35 am

Because there is a linemen discount on every team: Linemen (or the appropriate position) usually cost 10-20K (?) less then they should according to the cost calculator. If you could buy a 16 linemen team it would be an exploit as you would get much more play value than what you paid for it (at least that's my personal explanation). BTW, the 0-16 slots are only at Halfling and Goblin Teams where no other position is available anyway)

This is the response I got from Narkotic, and the one that I was refering to. Perhaps I misunderstood him either way Guess I need to go look at Galak's site.

gken1 · Post by **gken1** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 5:50 am

i say let teams play 16 lineman...take advantage of me

positional players are gonna win you the games.

Indigo · Post by **Indigo** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 8:17 am

so if someone takes out all YOUR postitional players you can't win?
sounds like bad tactics, being over-reliant on one or two players

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 8:25 am

Xtreme wrote:
Because there is a linemen discount on every team: Linemen (or the appropriate position) usually cost 10-20K (?) less then they should according to the cost calculator. If you could buy a 16 linemen team it would be an exploit as you would get much more play value than what you paid for it (at least that's my personal explanation). BTW, the 0-16 slots are only at Halfling and Goblin Teams where no other position is available anyway)
This is the response I got from Narkotic, and the one that I was refering to. Perhaps I misunderstood him either way Guess I need to go look at Galak's site.

Narkotic got it wrong. Linemen are not discounted. There is a rule that says they have to be cheaper than positional players, but their cost normally reflects the real value of the player.

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 6:18 pm

So there is no real reason why you can't have 16 lineman?
The particular sitiation that I was talking to Narkotic about was that a coach in our league want to run an all Skeleton team. Seeing as this would obviously not be overpowering and just a team to have fun with I couldn't figure out why he wasn't allowed to have 16 skeletons.

We need a questioning emoticon.