Can you check this for errors?

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:17 pm

I put together the definite Java Bowl Positions.INI
Teams are LRB + Kehmri, Elf, Ogre, Nurgle.

I would be glad if someone helped me to find a typo or rules error;
There might also be Big Guys / Star Players missing (Expansion Teams/Khemri?). The Letters are Position indicators... Z is Blitzer B is Blocker and so on. I just want to make sure it's 100% LRB in rules and spelling, and that the expansion teams are complete as known yet.
I hope its all correct...

[AMAZON]
BLITZER=Z
CATCHER=C
LINEWOMAN=L
THROWER=T

[CHAOS]
BEASTMAN=L
WARRIOR=B

[CHAOS DWARF]
BLOCKER=B
BULL CENTAUR=Z
HOBGOBLIN=L

[DARK ELF]
BLITZER=Z
LINEMAN=L
THROWER=T
WITCH ELF=B

[DWARF]
BLITZER=Z
LONG BEARD=L
RUNNER=R
TROLL SLAYER=B

[GOBLIN]
GOBLIN=R

[HALFLING]
HALFLING=R

[HIGH ELF]
DRAGON WARRIOR=Z
LINEMAN=L
LION WARRIOR=C
PHOENIX WARRIOR=T

[HUMAN]
BLITZER=Z
CATCHER=C
LINEMAN=L
THROWER=T

[LIZARDMEN]
SAURUS=B
SKINK=R

[NORSE]
BLITZER=Z
CATCHER=C
LINEMAN=L
THROWER=T

[ORC]
BLACK ORC BLOCKER=B
BLITZER=Z
GOBLIN=R
LINEMAN=L
THROWER=T

[SKAVEN]
GUTTER RUNNER=R
LINEMAN=L
STORM VERMIN=Z
THROWER=T

[UNDEAD]
GHOUL=R
MUMMY=B
SKELETON=L
WIGHT=Z
ZOMBIE=L

[WOOD ELF]
CATCHER=C
LINEMAN=L
THROWER=T
WARDANCER=Z

[OGRE]
BLOCKER=B
GOBLIN=G
THROWER=T

[KHEMRI]
BLITZ-RA=Z
MUMMY=B
SKELETON=L
THRO-RA=T

[NURGLE'S ROTTERS]
BEASTMAN=L
ROTTER=B

[ELF]
BLITZER=Z
CATCHER=C
LINEMAN=L
THROWER=T

[BIG GUYS]
BEAST=BG
KROXIGOR=BG
MINOTAUR=BG
OGRE=BG
RAT OGRE=BG
TREEMAN=BG
TROLL=BG

[STAR PLAYERS]
Bomber Dribblesnot=S
Count von Drakenborg=S
Deeproot Strongbranch=S
Fungus the Loon=S
Grashnak Blackhoof=S
Griff Oberwald=S
Grim Ironjaw=S
Hakflem Skuttlespike=S
Headsplitter=S
Horkon Heartripper=S
The Deathroller=S
Hthark the Unstoppable=S
Jordell Freshbreeze=S
Lord Borak the Despoiler=S
Mighty Zug=S
Morg ‘N’ Thorg=S
Nobbla Blackwart=S
Prince Moranion=S
‘Ripper’ Bolgrot=S
Scrappa Sorehead=S
Silibili=S
Thrud the Barbarian=S
Varag Ghoul-Chewer=S
Zzharg Madeye=S

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:20 pm

why don't you have necromantic and vampire there as well?

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:22 pm

You have prince Moranian in two places, both with the HE and the Star Players.

Other than that it looks fine.

Asperon Thorn

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:22 pm

Because they are nowhere near the Games Workshop websites, and I didn't find portraits for them as well.

I just wanted to make sure the LRB + 100% certain expansion teams are correct.

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:23 pm

I would also probably use different letters for Zombies and Skeletons, but they are both technically linemen.

Asperon Thorn

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:24 pm

corrected the Prince.

On GW online store they call them undead linemen... dunno;

I wanted the Letters as a help for new players who cannot associate i.e wight and blitzer so they get a guideline on player types.

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:31 pm

Javabowl used to differentiate Skinks from Suari using a Large "S" and a small "s" Perhaps you can use the small "s" for skeletons. I don't play undead but I imagine that they are used a little differently from each other, and worth differentiating.

Asperon Thorn

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:37 pm

Toby wrote:Because they are nowhere near the Games Workshop websites, and I didn't find portraits for them as well.

I just wanted to make sure the LRB + 100% certain expansion teams are correct.

IIRC the Necromantic team is more likely to become official than the Ogre one this October.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:43 pm

i like the way javabowl handles them as they are to be quite honest

but i would like the star players to have an "*" rather than an L like they currently do

z should be for zombies not blitzers imho as well

not many teams have blocker and blitzers, orcs do but black orcs have Bob or somethin cna't remember off top of my head

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 4:47 pm

Well they Sell Ogre, Elf, Khemri & Nurgle's Rotters. So thats why I picked them...

Regarding the Letters:

Z=Blitzer, B=Blocker, C=Catcher, R=Runner, T=Thrower, S= Star Player, BG=Big Guy.

This is intended to be a help feature if you play with Icons. You can always press "i" to show position Letters this way to recognize the player Type.

For people who play without the Icons these Letters might not we suitable.

What about the Big Guys and Star Players?
Wasn't there a Tomb King Big Guy and a Ramtut Star Player for Khemri? What about Zara the Slayer? Anything missing in the list?

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 5:12 pm

oh right i get you, thought you were on about changing the letters used if you didn't use the icons (which i don't)

think the list looks fine

as for ramtut and zara they aren't out yet will be out in september with the necromatic minis i believe

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 5:57 pm

Thanks so far!

So do you use Icons or Letters Grumbledook?

As I said I use Icons, and as you know you can hit "n" to show the numbers and the positions.ini I suggest allows you to hit "p" to show the positions.

Now, Necromantic. Whats the Deal? Is it to be a new Team or are Undead going to be updated? I would vote for the latter option...

However, how will Necromantic look like?

[Necromantic]
?=L
?=C
?=B
?=Z

Are Ramtut and Zara sure to arrive?
How are they spelled correctly?

[Star Players]
Zara the Slayer=S
Ramtut the Third=S

Is the Tomb King a new Big Guy or just a Khemri Mummy?

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 6:57 pm

I don't like the icons, i was using javabowl before they were put in so was used to using the letters

i tihnk a lot of the old players in fumbbl use the letters while new members tend to use the icons (as i think they are on by default)

well you got zombies, ghouls, wights, golems and werewolves in necromantic team so you can position them however you want, though i don't really think you can so much, like centaurs they have players that may be blitzers/ball carrier/catchers which is why i think you should just use the roster names but well thats up to you

those starts are coming so is hubris you will have to wait until the corresponding bbmag for them though