Hypnogaze

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 7:52 am

Hypnotic gaze is a racial characteristic, and therefore cannot be taken as a physical attribute when a mutating player rolls doubles.

How many official roster players have hypnogaze? 0.
How many star players have it? 1 (in LRB)

What was the point? A skill made for one star player?

IMO: it should be moved into the physical attribute category.

The same applies for regeneration: I can't see why a mutating player couldn't suddenly start to regenerate as a mutation.

What were the reasons behind them being changed into racial characteristics?

Post by **Thadrin** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 8:02 am

I never thought of Regeneration as abusive as a Physical ability....I never heard of anyone taking it.
At least its available on a couple of rosters (any team that can take Trolls and Undead).

Hypno Gaze...make it an ability. It has nice tactical implications and all those Slaaneshi chaos teams should want it.

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 8:22 am

Thadrin wrote:I never thought of Regeneration as abusive as a Physical ability....I never heard of anyone taking it.
At least its available on a couple of rosters (any team that can take Trolls and Undead).

Hypno Gaze...make it an ability. It has nice tactical implications and all those Slaaneshi chaos teams should want it.

Exactly. And I don't think that we two are the only ones thinking this way. In fact, I'm curious to know if there's someone out there thinking that changing them into physical abilities isn't a good idea.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 12:05 pm

There is a decent chance that in October the ruling on lost TZ will change to the rule that most leagues are using anyway ... that the player may not assist a block.

Now for leagues that have never played that way, this makes Hynpo Gaze a pretty darn good skill. Also Jervis is working on rules to bring a Vampire team back to Blood Bowl .... so all in good time folks ... all in good time.

Galak

Piepgrass · Post by **Piepgrass** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 12:49 pm

Its true that hypnitic gaze is a good skill (and will become better if the change to disallow assist is made)
But so is a lot of the other PA. Claw, Fang. Verylong legs and others.
The thing that imho make hypno fair enough is that it is of mixed value depending on who you will play against.
So i hope that it will be alloved to return to a PA so that it can see play again.

Poul

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Wed Jul 10, 2002 6:11 am

Galak:
So what if HG is darn powerful - it still isn't going to be the only (or even nr 1) mutation teams will be taking. Explain me how skaven/chaos will benefit from having access to HG so much that HG being a racial ability is justified?

Why restrict HG access to only vampires (assuming the team appears some day - now only Luthor has it)?

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Wed Jul 10, 2002 1:09 pm

Mestari:

Didn't say I agreed that Hypno Gaze should be a Racial Char .... personally I don't care

The only reason I see it being one is the conclusion was made that its not really a physical body change that would occur (like developing a Big Hand) ... so it was removed from the list.

Galak

bingbong186 · Post by **bingbong186** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 5:18 am

But if we're talking fluff wise here, the Chaos Gods or the Horned One are pretty much able to do with their minions as they see fit, such as bestowing psychic powers, abililty to read minds etc. There are reams and reams of fluff about Slaaneshi warriors entrancing their enemies to the point where they stood completely still while they were being ripped apart. IMO, theres plenty of grounds (fluffwise) for making Hypnotic Gaze a Physical Trait.

Sputnik · Post by **Sputnik** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 7:31 am

Oh, noone took regeneration?? Really?

Under 3rd ed. I used to give regeneration to my gutter runners after they had very long legs! It helps very much avoiding these dirty-player-kills-your-team tactics.

Sputnik