What do you think about stalling?

[Skummy]

yeah but they played to a score of 1, and the losing team DIED. not my kind of entertainment.

Actually, I heard it was the the winning team that got to be immortalized as a sacrifice...

[wesleytj]

hmmm i'm pretty sure the tour guide at chichen itza said the losers died. that was over 2 years ago tho so i might be mistaken.

actually if anyone is at all interested, i could put up some pics of the playing field and the hoops and stuff...they're kinda cool really.

[sean newboy]

Actually your both rite. The losers were killed, the winners sacrificed.

[lawquoter]

Actually your both rite. The losers were killed, the winners sacrificed.

And...I think we've got a winner to replace ageing! [runs away before the sh@t hits the fan.... ]

[Skummy]

Now that would be an interesting house rule. Any teams that compete for a championship game are killed at the end of the game.

I guess that would keep any one team from dominating a league, eh?

[Asperon Thorn]

Now that would be an interesting house rule. Any teams that compete for a championship game are killed at the end of the game.

I guess that would keep any one team from dominating a league, eh?

Yeah I can see that one in effect. "The Darkside Cowboys manage to blow thier opponents away every season, by 4 or 5 points, except they never manage to win the Championship. They always seem to lose 1-0 in overtime."

Asperon Thorn

[Skummy]

Really? The Darkside Cowboys make it to the Championship game after getting destroyed every season?

[Asperon Thorn]

er maybe the Playoffs. Misread the post.

". . .Manage to go undefeated in the regular season only to lose in the last playoff game. . ."

Asperon Thorn

[Zombie]

A quick search on google gave this about the origin of basketball:

Dr. James Naismith, a Canadian who was teaching at Springfield College in Massachusetts, needed to come up with a game to entertain the school's rugby and football players during the winter months. So he grabbed a peach basket he found in the janitors closet of the school and hung it on a railing
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about 10 feet from the floor. But every time the players made a shot they had to take down the basket and grab the ball, which became really annoying. So James cut a hole in the basket so the ball would go straight through without them having to dig it out all the time. On December 21, 1891 he made the first 13 rules for basketball, which resemble many of the rules used today.

So the only thing i had wrong was that the university was in Montreal (but if you read my post correctly i clearly wasn't too sure about the university). The inventor was indeed a Canadian, and invented it to train his rugby team in the off season.

We've already determined that the original, real Winnie was Canadian.

Wanna dispute my third statement now, that Superman's creator was also Canadian?

They don't lie to us in those commercials. Everything i said was real.

[Dark Lord (retired)]

Lie I said, they have been from a family that lived in Canada at one time but when the inventions were made they were American citizens.

The good Dr. Naismith served in the U.S. military which means he was a U.S. citizen. He was an American. duh...

And yeah, the creators of Superman too came from a family that at one time lived in Canada but when they drew and wrote Superman they had emmigrated to the USA. Like I said, you don't understand emmigration, this country or really anything.

[Zombie]

And next you'll tell me that Einstein was an American just because he moved there?

Great minds move to America because that's where the money is. It doesn't make them Americans. And it doesn't make America a producer of great minds, just an importer. I don't know about you, but i'm much more proud of our exports than our imports.

[Asperon Thorn]

I think those commercials are just, if not better, at twisting the facts as you are. They may not be lieing but sure aren't telling you the truth.

We've already determined that the original, real Winnie was Canadian.

That is exactly what we determined. The real live, bear in the zoo, was Winnie. Winnie the Pooh, or Edward Bear, was an English invention. Not the implied statement that Winnie the Pooh was Canadian, some of the stories were written before the author changed the name from Edward Bear.

The circumstances that involved the creation of Basketball, by Dr. Naismith, all took place in the US. The thought process involved by the Dr. was inspired by a series of events that all happened in the US. From the psychology problem, to the Physical Education Dilemna. The original Statment that the US stole basketball from Canada is utterly false. The only accusation that could be made is that we stole a Professor, but I believe that he came from his own free will. Had he not, Basketball would not have been invented.

I believe that the above argument could also be applied to Superman. I don't think that he is fighting for Truth, Justice, and the Canadian way.

Asperon Thorn

[Dark Lord (retired)]

And next you'll tell me that Einstein was an American just because he moved there?

Great minds move to America because that's where the money is. It doesn't make them Americans. And it doesn't make America a producer of great minds, just an importer. I don't know about you, but i'm much more proud of our exports than our imports.

Well Einstein never became a citizen that I know of. The others did.

And if that is your argument then I suspect most of the people you are bringing up are English or at least Europeans. The creators of Superman were then Israelis and not Canadians.

You have no argument here, Zombie, if you try to claim that they are Canadian because some ancestor lived in Canada then you can't explain why they aren't American for moving to America. If you try to use racial heritage, you lose because they aren't natives to that land either.
The simple fact is that they emmigrated to America, became Americans and then invented things. They weren't Canadians.

Thank you, come again.

[Zombie]

And if that is your argument then I suspect most of the people you are bringing up are English or at least Europeans. The creators of Superman were then Israelis and not Canadians.

In my opinion, what defines you is where you were born and most importantly where you grew up. Not where your ancestors are from (it doesn't matter if you're black or white), and not were you decided to live for whatever reason (money, family, etc).

[Asperon Thorn]

And if that is your argument then I suspect most of the people you are bringing up are English or at least Europeans. The creators of Superman were then Israelis and not Canadians.

In my opinion, what defines you is where you were born and most importantly where you grew up. Not where your ancestors are from (it doesn't matter if you're black or white), and not were you decided to live for whatever reason (money, family, etc).

That is where the disagreement lies. If you go someplace, become a citizen, and embrace thier culture, then you are essentially the same as those that were born there. Whether you do that when you are 10 or when you are 110. These 'Canadian Inventions' that you so wrongfully claim were stolen from Canada, were created in the US, by people that wanted to, or had already, become American Citizens. Einstein was a very key figure in the creation of the Atomic Bomb. Something that can be attributed as an American invention. Whether or not he got his citizenship, the Germans cannot claim they invented it, since they did not posess the first.

America posessed the first recorded basketball game, and the first recorded rules of the game. Neither of these things were stolen, they were original at their location. Likewise with Superman. The original drawings were not made in Canada, but in the United States, inspired by the authors dealings and experiences in the United States.

Asperon Thorn