Which Trait for a DE Lineman?

Jerhod · Post by **Jerhod** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:26 pm

Guard.

(Yes, I know that I'm only echoing...

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Mirascael · Post by **Mirascael** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:12 pm

Geeze, my memory!
Has anyone mentioned "Guard" so far?

Jerhod · Post by **Jerhod** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:37 pm

Mirascael wrote:Geeze, my memory!
Has anyone mentioned "Guard" so far?

I don't think so... Why, do you think it'd be a good idea?

kaboom · Post by **kaboom** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 9:22 am

guard guard guard, don't believe longshot he suks!

Fronko · Post by **Fronko** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 9:36 am

If you have a few guards already, take leader. If not, take guard...

Valen · Post by **Valen** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 10:10 am

Leader, you have a few guards that can be added too later!

Jerhod · Post by **Jerhod** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:37 pm

I'm not a big Leader fan myself... Sure, the extra RR is nice, but you'll eventually be able to buy all the rerolls you need.

Valen · Post by **Valen** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:43 pm

It really isn't applicable here as dark elves can't have a big guy, but those Leader re-rolls can come in really handy with your Big Guy!

Jerhod · Post by **Jerhod** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:48 pm

Valen wrote:It really isn't applicable here as dark elves can't have a big guy, but those Leader re-rolls can come in really handy with your Big Guy!

Very true!

But, as you said, Dark Elves don't get Big Guys.

Valen · Post by **Valen** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:50 pm

I was merely defending the Leader trait

martynq · Post by **martynq** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 3:51 pm

A reason why Leader is better than I had originally realized is that it is unaffected by Handicap Table results that halve your number of re-rolls.

Martyn

Jerhod · Post by **Jerhod** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:03 pm

Valen wrote:I was merely defending the Leader trait.

I understand.

martynq wrote:A reason why Leader is better than I had originally realized is that it is unaffected by Handicap Table results that halve your number of re-rolls.

I don't know if this is enough of a reason for me to want to take it, but it is a good point.

martynq · Post by **martynq** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:07 pm

Jerhod wrote:
martynq wrote:A reason why Leader is better than I had originally realized is that it is unaffected by Handicap Table results that halve your number of re-rolls.
I don't know if this is enough of a reason for me to want to take it, but it is a good point.

I hadn't realized quite it's significance until my current game in the MBBL2 where I have lost half my re-rolls due to having a TR some 80 above my opponent. I also rolled double skull for the first block in the first two turns of the second half. So I've got no re-rolls left now and I'm really missing them. Once you've got two Guards think about getting a Leader and then continue with the Guards afterwards.

Martyn

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:24 pm

In long term team development I consider Leader a waste unless you've got a BG.

Ultimately you ought to be able to afford all the TRR you need (4-6 depends on race) so by taking leader you are gaining a short term advantage (free TRR) in return for long term penalty (not having that double on something useful).

I'd not say that Leader was worse than Guard in the short term - in fact if you intend playing less than ~20 games with the team then go ahead - it will make a valuable contribution to the team, and possibly a marginally better one than Guard/Dauntless.

martynq · Post by **martynq** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:32 pm

ianwilliams wrote:Ultimately you ought to be able to afford all the TRR you need (4-6 depends on race) so by taking leader you are gaining a short term advantage (free TRR) in return for long term penalty (not having that double on something useful).

Four re-rolls isn't that many when halved to two by a Handicap Roll.

Martyn