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6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:01 pm
by dsavillian
I'm currently 6 games into a 12 game season with Vampires. TV sits at 1330 (1370 if you count the MNG thrall)

Roster:
http://bbloc.calgarygamers.net/index.ph ... 2&obj_id=5


I have 150k in the bank and I'm not sure what to spend it on.

My next 6 games are against 4 veteran teams (each with 14+ games played and TVs from 1450 to 1850) and 2 teams from my division (same # of games as me, equal or less TV likely).


I haven't run a vampire team with 5 vampires on the pitch yet, but I think I'd like to wait for a bit of Pro before I do that. So if I bought a 5th vampire, he'd probably be a bench warmer for now. 110k on the bench seems like a bad idea, but I have to get a 5th vampire eventually...

I'm not sure if a 5th re-roll is a good idea or not either. Again, I was hoping to have some Pro by now to help with the bloodlusts.

Thoughts on what to spend the 150k on? 110 for a vampire, or 140 for a re-roll?

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:47 pm
by Digger Goreman
For me: Reroll.... Three vamps on the field is often enough.... Four vamps on the field with only 4 rerolls?(!)

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:09 pm
by dsavillian
Digger Goreman wrote:For me: Reroll.... Three vamps on the field is often enough.... Four vamps on the field with only 4 rerolls?(!)

Hasn't been too bad so far. I only use the RRs on bloodlust if I'm really short on thralls or if I'm running a vampire alone to the endzone.

You do make a good point though, a 5th re-roll would make things easier

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:33 pm
by Digger Goreman
dsavillian wrote:I only use the RRs on bloodlust if I'm really short on thralls or if I'm running a vampire alone to the endzone....
Ship me your dice! :roll:

With three vamps taking an action on the pitch each turn, you (nuffle, not me) will average a failed bloodlust every other turn.... That's a "guaranteed" four per half just on Bloodlust....

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:38 pm
by dsavillian
Digger Goreman wrote:
dsavillian wrote:I only use the RRs on bloodlust if I'm really short on thralls or if I'm running a vampire alone to the endzone....
Ship me your dice! :roll:

With three vamps taking an action on the pitch each turn, you (nuffle, not me) will average a failed bloodlust every other turn.... That's a "guaranteed" four per half just on Bloodlust....

heh, yeah. Sometimes, to keep the BL down, I don't take an action with a vampire if I don't need to. And I'll bite a thrall when it comes up... just not if I've already put 2 in the BH bin :)

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:05 pm
by Jimmy Fantastic
I would buy the 5th vamp and play him or add a thrall or two.
Alternatively you can hold of buying stuff and make decisions based on what inducements you will be able to get in your next match.
As long as you have a decent bench 5 vamps 4 rr is fine and not excessive at all.
I would never go over 4 RR even with 6 vamps, 70TV is a lot for each.

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:27 pm
by Megr1m
Four rr is fine. Buy a Vampire and a Thrall, sack the damaged one. Take Pro on the the next two Vamps to level. Concentrate on building for next season, and get some Block/Wrestle on those Thralls asap.

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:48 pm
by Smeborg
Get some Dodge on the Vamps! Actually, I prefer it before Block. It improves their mobility, and means they can dodge safely when they need to bite a Thrall (say when they are making a move action).

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:05 am
by dsavillian
Smeborg wrote:Get some Dodge on the Vamps! Actually, I prefer it before Block. It improves their mobility, and means they can dodge safely when they need to bite a Thrall (say when they are making a move action).
/nod.

the plan was to do a 50/50 split, but I rolled +ST and +MV on my first 2, so I figured block since I was hitting with them more

not sure why I didnt take dodge on the 3rd

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:04 am
by MattDakka
I would buy the reroll, and I would skill up the 4 vampires before considering to buy the 5th.

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:22 am
by Tourach
As a rule of thumb you need one rr for each vamp you have.
I would never bench a 110k player, so if you have the vampires on the roster, make sure you have enough re-rolls and thralls to support them.
I would probably buy the 5th rr now, or a couple of thralls.

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:26 am
by Tourach
Smeborg wrote:Get some Dodge on the Vamps! Actually, I prefer it before Block. It improves their mobility, and means they can dodge safely when they need to bite a Thrall (say when they are making a move action).
quoted for truth!

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:05 pm
by Jimmy Fantastic
For your reference, best vampire team all times has 6 Vamps 4 rr: https://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team ... _id=644044

RR are overated, you can always feed on LOS guys.
You are playing a Vampire team not a hobgoblin team!

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:57 pm
by Tourach
Jimmy Fantastic wrote:For your reference, best vampire team all times has 6 Vamps 4 rr: https://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team ... _id=644044

RR are overated, you can always feed on LOS guys.
You are playing a Vampire team not a hobgoblin team!
Wow you really do live up to your name Jim...
Anyways this team has 5 AG increases and dodge on all vamps and has been playing only one elf team the last 40 matches or so i guess this team is in a somewhat other position than what we are dealing with here. With 6 vampires on the field you cannot probably always feed on your LoS. But of course i should not give advice to fumbbler's...

Re: 6 games with Vamps - Where to go from here?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:14 pm
by dsavillian
Jimmy Fantastic wrote:For your reference, best vampire team all times has 6 Vamps 4 rr: https://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team ... _id=644044

RR are overated, you can always feed on LOS guys.
You are playing a Vampire team not a hobgoblin team!

heh, apples and oranges there a bit, but I see your point.

so maybe vampire + thrall to drain the treasury and give myself a nearly full roster, leaving a slot for a star player going forward.

Thanks for the discussion everyone!