Secret Weapons

Joaquim · Post by **Joaquim** » Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:36 pm

I'm in serious doubt... when you read the Secret Weapons rules you can see they are mada as this are part of the team... like the Deathroller, wich can be out of the game at the very first missed block (isn't it? as soon as it falls it's over, isn't it?)... but will be ready next week...

Well, my problem is that in the rules I didn't saw anything about getting Secret Weapons without the Star PLayer... wich can only be freebooted...

Did I miss something and Secret Weapons aren't Star PLayers (only regular players that go to the roster, but with a funny name..) or... well... the deathroller is good for next game if you want to spend 80k again?!?

Joaquim

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:43 pm

At the moment there aren't any offical rules for using secret weapons in your games. The only way to get them is to hire the star player with the weapon. Thing is a lot of people don't play with star players, your other option is to use the secret weapon house rules. Not sure where they are though.

Pallino · Post by **Pallino** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:46 pm

HERE IS THE EXPERIMENTAL RULES - from italian to english - (Quick Version!

):

We are using those rules in our league! Those Were experimental in the preview of the IV edition.
No Player with Illegal Weapon if i have just one with (not for goblin 4 Players with).
No Starplayer with Illegal Weapon if you have just one player with.
You Cannot buy an Illegal weapon for a player you just have, but you must buy a new player (basic player of your team) with add on the illegal weapon. Make Cost of Player + Cost of Weapon =Cost of new Player

A Player with the weapon can't change his weapon or not take it on the board (He Had it, He'll have it forever).
Not all teams can have illegal weapon just some!

WEAPON
Chainsaw
COST
60,000
TEAMS:
Amazon, Dark Elves,Goblin, Dwaves, Men, Orcs, Caos, Caos Dwarves, Undead, Norse, Skaven
PENALTY ROLL
8+

WEAPON
Blunderbuss
COST
30,000
TEAMS:
Caos Dwarves, Men, Dwarves, Skaven
PENALTY ROLL
10+

WEAPON
Poisoned Dagger
COST
10,000
TEAMS:
Amazon, Dark Elves, Men, Caos, Lizardmen, Skaven
PENALTY ROLL
10+

WEAPON
Bombs
COST
40,000
TEAMS:
Goblin, Dwarves, Caos Dwarves
PENALTY ROLL
8+

WEAPON
Stink Bombs
COST
20,000
TEAMS:
Goblin
PENALTY ROLL
10+

WEAPON
Pogo Stick
COST
20,000
TEAMS:
Goblin
PENALTY ROLL
10+

WEAPON
Ball & Chain
COST
20,000
TEAMS:
Goblin
PENALTY ROLL
8+

DEATH ROLLER is only a Starplayer! You can't buy it as Secret Weapon.

It's all for now

bye [/b]

Pallino · Post by **Pallino** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 10:59 pm

Ops, i have forgotten!
- The rules to use them are the same you can now read on the LRB 1.3!!!

But there is a description of the Star Players' secret weapon, while with those experimental rules you can Buy Them for your Team.
Bye again

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 11:25 pm

I'd also like to see secret weapons back to buy for the team.

I can just imagine the look on my opponents face when mySkaven drag out the Warp Cannon

.

.....What, Whadda mean I can't take it. (Grumble, grumble). Back to the drawing board. Get me Clan Skryre

Zy-Nox · Post by **Zy-Nox** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 11:28 pm

I'll take Multiple chainsaws for my Goblins please
they are NASTY.

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Wed Oct 23, 2002 11:37 pm

I don't mind SW if they are used sparingly. One of the problems I had with 2ed was that practically every team had a chainsaw. SW should be an exception not the norm. I have no prob with gobbos having them because they are famous for cheating and kinda need the help anyway.

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:51 am

Check out this thread to find a very good suggestion (from your humble and modest servant, me! =P):

http://www.talkbloodbowl.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2266

Kri · Post by **Kri** » Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:50 am

In our former league you could take weapons if you rolled a double on a skill roll and payed the price. Appr. the same limitations as in this though. Maybe some similar rules could be worked out and have weapons as a trait...

Zy-Nox · Post by **Zy-Nox** » Thu Oct 24, 2002 1:07 pm

I'd still like to see them back, but I'm not sure If I'd like too see players with weapons have the ability too get spps,
For example a player with chainsaw and Dirty player..thats a +3/+2 too fouls

.....we had one of these when we experimented the rules.

Pallino · Post by **Pallino** » Thu Oct 24, 2002 8:05 pm

Those WHERE experimental rules!
Because they have'nt put them in the LRB....

So, i don't know if they'll put those rules in the November rules review... It seems not.
We are using those rules because we have started our League in the Middle between 3ed. and the LRB.

ONE THING: Nobody have already taken a Secret Weapon because nobody want Lost the possibility to Hire a Starplayer with secret Weapon.

Joaquim · Post by **Joaquim** » Fri Oct 25, 2002 5:20 pm

I think I would prefer some "weak" but funny SWs as part of your team... something you could buy with one-off payment (I'd like rather without a player, but that perhaps would overcomplicated the rules)... but not very usefull....
I would like specially to see the refree taking the SW on a 12 (on the Penalty Roll)...

On the other hand they, like they are, isn't so bad... if you have a important match, or lots of money you can hire one for a game, like a Star Player... I guess they are a little overpriced, but...

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