Eurobowl 2005 Teams

[OBLIVIUS]

Ok, I see.
But I still don't remember that episode as I still think that if this situation should happen people could talk about things instead of feeding such an insane inner thought through time.
This is the thing I don't understand..
Well, I'm going to take more care and be fairplaying to the edge, but I hope at least a few rules are going to survive..
And if I I should forget something, please tell me before I become the greatest villain in the bloodbowl-forum..

But probably if I don't really remember anything about this guy, there must be a reason for that.. that obviously he has nothing to be remembered for, good or bad....

The point is, if you play any of the top-class coaches on the tournament scene, and the situation arises where you fail to declare an action that was obvious (e.g. you've moved every one but the guy with the ball, you've set up a cage formation and its obvious you intend to hand it off to the guy in the middle, but dont declare it first; they will allow you to continue with the hand off), then they will allow for that mistake. For a coach to openly seek to win on a technicality is not only poor sportsmanship but shows a reduced ability, so how you have the nerve to try and make a judgement on the guys reputation in tournaments, given your pretty unheard of status shows a huge arrogance. Hey im only 3 tournaments old and i know how to give opponents benefit of the doubt, why can't you like everybody else does?


Loved you in Twins, Romancing The Stone and Batman Returns (some of many) by the way, you're one of my favourite actors.

[l_dauguet]

I didn't know I would start a war with the Italians. Thanx to the "Nafia" for trying to set some order here.

Sorry to have an opinion about you. Sorry to publicly express it. But I don't like your state of mind you and a couple of others I don't need to mention. That's what made me not go to the last Eurobowl. You can think what you want of me and say it here, I don't care. It's only fair.

This Eurobowl, I didn't want to miss coz' I've got good friends to see. If you think because it's the Eurbowl (woooaaaa ze big deaaaaal increeeedible that I won't quit games if I play assholes, you're puting your finger in your eyes up to your ass.

And good morning everybody by the way.

[Torpor]

Oblivius wrote:

And if I I should forget something, please tell me before I become the greatest villain in the bloodbowl-forum..

I think that you have to try a bit harder to get that title.

(Please don't)

[hoomin_erra]

Hoomin adds "Riot Suppression Gear" to the list of items to take to the Eurobowl

[l_dauguet]

Just bring a spare shirt this time

[hoomin_erra]

Hey, i got a nice yellow one
It tells every one that i am the sheriff!!!

[Glorian Underhill]

Whua Tension is high! And I thought only soccer could breed violence.

Anyway, Riotgear might be an option. Or just some NAF friendship armwrist bands. Just for my special friends.
To my personal view in the past tournaments it has ocurred that some of the coaches i began to dislike, namely some german leagues, I began to speak with them a little and changed my mind.

so the message is this: "Met a coach at two tournaments and then set your mind."

[Deathwing]

Friendship, fair play and sportsmanship is what forged such a strong European international scene in the first place. I hope that everybody remembers that at the weekend and keeps within that spirit. The fact that it's a team event shouldn't make things any different to any other tournament. Enough said I hope.

Now can we get back to team lists as per topic please?

[l_dauguet]

French team is sorted

[Aramil]

Ok, I step out... not more my business...

I'm not with him anymore... I went abroad and I understood what Woody was saying (and I support it!). If Oblivius wants to go on, his own business...

[Podfrey]

You bunch of kids. Behave will you or I won't let you in!!!

OK, from my perspective as (unrequested and somehow lumbered with) organiser for this year:

If an opponent declared an action part way through a move in one of my games I'd allow it once, but warn the opponent that the rules clearly state that actions are to be declared BEFORE doing anything. They would not be allowed to do it a second time. This is the sort of approach I would like to see taken at the event. Reasonable, but fair.

But you can kiss your illegal procedure goodbye!

I want everyone there to have a good time as I also want to see it sanctioned next year and prove to DW what a spoil sport he'd be not to

Laughing at the misfortune of others (ironically "schadenfreuden") is also to be done with carefully so that it doesn't come across in the wrong way. Some nation sooner or later was going to want to introduce compulsory qualifiers (I think the Italians do, but they have always done it this way) and realise that this isn't the way to go with Eurobowl. Why? Because playing in European events is firstly about the social side and secondly about the performance. If the Germans had won and the English not (hard to imagine, but go with me on this... ) then I think it may have been us that had clamoured for qualifiers. So I for one won't be laughing too loudly as I know how close it was last year. Next year I predict a return to the old method of Sputnik picking the team

[Evil Git]

well another couple of drop outs this week means that Team Scotland will not be taking part in the event. there's just not enough scots available at the minute.



there'll still be some of us though in the scrubbers tournament though

[Deathwing]

If an opponent declared an action part way through a move in one of my games I'd allow it once, but warn the opponent that the rules clearly state that actions are to be declared BEFORE doing anything. They would not be allowed to do it a second time. This is the sort of approach I would like to see taken at the event. Reasonable, but fair.

The 'cut-off' point commonly applied is declaring an action after you've rolled a dice. (The dice roll can have an impact on the decision. Example: I wouldn't allow somebody to make a pick up roll (with a TRR in hand and without Sure Hands and then declare a Pass Action. (if the player has SH, it wouldn't bother me because making the pick up has no impact on the decision to Pass) . Likewise making a Dodge roll and then declaring a blitz with the TRR still in reserve is a no no for the same reason). If you haven't rolled a dice it's nothing but a technicality and calling it is gamemanship at best. Likewise you don't force players into going through with 2D against Blocks because they've mixed up your (identically painted) Guard player with another. No dice rolled=take back the move and put the player back. Some tournaments actually define this in the ruleset, maybe more should so these things are clear to everyone.

[Aramil]

Some nation sooner or later was going to want to introduce compulsory qualifiers (I think the Italians do, but they have always done it this way) and realise that this isn't the way to go with Eurobowl.

Honestly 2005 had been our first year with a real championship in order to form the team... but rules had been clear since beginning of the year and we're going to go on with this methods also for next years (with some corrections, in order to keep it the fairer possible).

Tha fact is that we have more than 8 players interested in being at the EuroBowl... so had to find a way to give everybody the same chances of being part of the team.
In 2004 we had a "national coach" who decided the 8... but we were all from Bologna (Panico is from everywhere )
This year we're going to have also a player (Yena) from Pisa... and I dropped out.

This means that if we went on with the "one call the others" we would have had the same team also if Yena is better than me. I think it's fair that if he's better than me, he has the right to play at the EuroBowl.

I know that the Eurobowl is not only the competition, but I and the Italian BloodBowl Federation think that the results had during the year in all the Italian tournaments are the only way to have a fair method of choosing the 8 to be on the team.

Every Italian interested in wearing our light blue jersey has the right to be on the team... so we had to find the method to select.

That's why we have compulsory qualifiers... and I personally think that this hasn't at all ruined the athmosphere in our tournaments and we still had much fun playing togheter.

[Podfrey]

For you guys it does work to have qualifiers. But for a lot of others it doesn't. Just the advantage of us all being individuals

Geoff

(Bringing the luurve to the EB)