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Despite what Zombie said about me liking exceptions that is one exception I want to steer way far away from.Redfang wrote:Maybe a good idea would be if Ogres could use rerolls, but couldn't buy them at the start of a league. That way they'll have to pay a lot for them (70000*2, or sot will represent a slow growth of a BB habit in their dim brains
Okay going back to the original statline in 2nd edition, the Blocker was clearly less agile than the Blitzer, but in terms of movement their base was the same with the blitzer having an extra point of sprint ability. So ignoring sprinting and staying with a 2nd edition feel ... would this work better for you Milo???Milo wrote:I'll log on a bit later and post my thoughts. I don't have a whole lot of time right now.
That said, Galak, you think a 4 5 2 9 Ogre Blocker is less "Trollish" than a 4 5 1 9 Ogre Blocker? Have you looked at the 2nd Ed stats for Ogre Blockers and Ogre Blitzers? If I recollect properly, the Ogre Blitzers were more agile than the Ogre Blockers -- that's part of where I got the statline from.
Milo
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0-12 Ogre Blocker 5 5 1 9 Really Stupid, Mighty Blow, TSkull, Big Guy
100k G/S
0-4 Ogre Blitzer 5 5 2 9 Bonehead, Mighty Blow, TSkull, TTM
120k G/S
0-4 Goblin Catcher 6 2 3 7 Dodge, Stunty, Right Stuff
40k A
70k Rerolls
It's sufficient to ask "Really Stupid?" to get an automatic "Troll!". You won't need any stats to produce that answer.GalakStarscraper wrote:Understood and agreed Milo ... but you ask anyone who doesn't know anything about 2nd edition what this is:Milo wrote:I'll log on a bit later and post my thoughts. I don't have a whole lot of time right now.
That said, Galak, you think a 4 5 2 9 Ogre Blocker is less "Trollish" than a 4 5 1 9 Ogre Blocker? Have you looked at the 2nd Ed stats for Ogre Blockers and Ogre Blitzers? If I recollect properly, the Ogre Blitzers were more agile than the Ogre Blockers -- that's part of where I got the statline from.
Milo
4/5/1/9 Really Stupid
Bet you $100 he/she says Troll. That said if you think AG 1 makes or breaks the player for you fine. As long as he stays with Big Guy but still has General access, the AG thing really is unimportant to me.
Galak
I'd give this team roster my seal of approval, although I'd prefer 80k re-rolls and I thought we decided on Ogre Blockers without General Access.GalakStarscraper wrote:
Okay going back to the original statline in 2nd edition, the Blocker was clearly less agile than the Blitzer, but in terms of movement their base was the same with the blitzer having an extra point of sprint ability. So ignoring sprinting and staying with a 2nd edition feel ... would this work better for you Milo???
Really, I'm looking for closure on this because I have a slot open in the MBBL and a coach willing to play the team so now I NEED A ROSTER!!!Code: Select all
0-12 Ogre Blocker 5 5 1 9 Really Stupid, Mighty Blow, TSkull, Big Guy 100k G/S 0-4 Ogre Blitzer 5 5 2 9 Bonehead, Mighty Blow, TSkull, TTM 120k G/S 0-4 Goblin Catcher 6 2 3 7 Dodge, Stunty, Right Stuff 40k A 70k Rerolls
Contrary to a prior statement of mine, Ogre Blockers must have access to general skills since even Trolls have. Imagine: a Blocker who cannot choose Block? Give them TTM too (won't hurt a bit), give the Blitzers BG for consistency and make the RRs 60k. As time goes by, one Ogre will become Leader and all Ogres will acquire Pro eventually. Strong enough, I'd say. My 2p.I'd give this team roster my seal of approval, although I'd prefer 80k re-rolls and I thought we decided on Ogre Blockers without General Access.
Regardless, those two points can be determined via playtesting.
I do prefer the 1 AG Ogre Blockers.
At least there were lots of people saying no Gen skills for Ogre Blockers (found Mestari, Dangerous Dave, Thetian, Mirascael, darthnoir making this point). And many has said that it's better to add advantages in the process instead of the other way around.Milo wrote:I'd give this team roster my seal of approval, although I'd prefer 80k re-rolls and I thought we decided on Ogre Blockers without General Access.
If you make the team rerolls any more expensive then a starting team won't be able to have any. It's already impossible to afford more than 1 on a starting team.
