Actions on page 8

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:56 am

Does anyone know why the Handoff isn't listed as a action on page 8?

Should the Foul be listed there too?

Cervidal · Post by **Cervidal** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:14 am

I don't know why they aren't listed, but I pound it into new players' heads everytime they ask what a player can do. One action per turn, and those actions are Block, Move, Pass, Hand-off, Foul, Blitz.

Which rulebook are you looking at? The web one? Or the one that now comes with the boxed set?

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 6:35 am

It isn't listed for the same resason why "start a Secret Weapon" isn't listed: both are advanced/extra rules, which are seperated from the basic rules (where the action list is located).

Indigo · Post by **Indigo** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 7:16 am

still an oversight really - we need a complete action list, as well as a turnover one that has been updated, and it could well go into some form of Appendix at the back of the book.

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 3:09 pm

Thanks guys!

Cervidal, I opened the version 2.0 one on the web site.

Narkotic, that makes sense.

Indigo, I agree that we need to get these all in one place. How many people actually play the basic rules? At least list them there and italicize them or something with a disclaimer that they are advanced rules or something. I'd say that they should be included in the basic rules as well.

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:02 pm

Why not just have 2 seperate books if they still want to kling to the basic rules. I don't know of anyone that has played the basic rules any longer then it took to learn the game.

The basic book would be very small and doesn't need to be in color. They could just include that in the box set, as I can't imagine anyone buying it seperatly.

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:18 pm

Yes, they could make a cheapo-produced Basic Rules with the History of BB and an advanced rulebook including ALL rules. Then they even would lack the excuse: "sorry we couldn't add three teams bc we only can print books with pages of 16 and its multiples" (a true story).

But I guess economic arguments will prevent GW doing this, as they want one binded book (and not those leaflet-books from 2nd ed) to have in their shelves for seperate sale and the division of basic/advanced is meant for the target group: ages of 12-18!

Someone told me that GW makes the largest share of its profits by selling basic boxes (even WFB) and by table-top rookies who will go to other systems anyway when they grow up.

Sixpack595 · Post by **Sixpack595** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:59 pm

GW can't manage to properly cut & paste a BB mag articl into an Annual, do you really think the could cut & paste the right sections out of the rule book? They are simply too incompetant to correctly seperate it into 2 books without screwing something up. Maybe if they rewrote the books, but all they do is cut & Paste...poorly. They proofread worse than me.

gken1 · Post by **gken1** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 12:01 am

wasn't it because a hand-off is a pass action? you're allowed 2 pass actions per turn....one hand off and one throw.

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 12:20 am

You're only allowed one pass action per turn.

Only one player may take a Blitz or Pass action per team turn.

LRB pg 8

The LRB has this to say about the Handoff on pg 20

Handing off the ball is an action, like Move, Blitz, Pass, etc. You may only declare one hand-off action per turn.

It's a seperate action.