Frenzy and Out of Bounds

Vesticle · Post by **Vesticle** » Sat Aug 17, 2002 8:08 pm

Came up in a game a couple minutes ago, just wanted to ask and get a short confirmation here, if I could...

If a frenzied player pushes the player he is blocking out of bounds, is he still required to follow up?

David

Dangerous Dave · Post by **Dangerous Dave** » Sat Aug 17, 2002 9:24 pm

Yes you must follow up.... be very careful with frenzy its so easy to folloe your opponent off the pitch next turn!

Dave

Post by **Thadrin** » Sun Aug 18, 2002 6:25 am

He doesn't need to be careful: the rest of his opposition are prone or dead...

Oderus Orungus · Post by **Oderus Orungus** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 7:57 pm

What happens if you frenzy a player with the ball into the endzone and then off the field? A td or not?

christer · Post by **christer** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:46 pm

What happens if you frenzy a player with the ball into the endzone and then off the field? A td or not?

It's a TD.

-- Christer

neverdodge · Post by **neverdodge** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 9:57 pm

and do the player with frenzy get 3 SPP ??

jk

Nd

Ghost of Pariah · Post by **Ghost of Pariah** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 10:39 pm

Seriously? It's a TD?! Never happened in my league but I think I would have ruled the other way. Is it in the FAQ somewhere?

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 10:45 pm

Hold on..frenzy into which EZ exactly?

neverdodge · Post by **neverdodge** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 11:06 pm

sorry if my post made the question confusing, i was just kidding, i think he mean team A has the ball, Team B got the frenzy player and push player of team A in team B endzone and then out of bounds.

Vesticle · Post by **Vesticle** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 11:20 pm

I'd have to say no, it's not a touchdown, for the same reason that a failed GFI in the end zone isn't one, or a player landing prone after TTM.

David

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 12:02 am

Have to disagree ... with GFI and Throw TeamMate the player never was on his feet in the endzone.

I'd rule that a pushback into the endzone is a TD even if the player hitting them had Frenzy and could have used the 2nd hit to knock them out of bounds.

I'd also not allow the 2nd hit. There was a player at Resurrection that pushed a player into his own endzone so that he's have an extra turn to tie up the match.

Galak

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 12:12 am

I agree, the moment the ball carrier crosses the line in possession of the ball it's a TD.
The failed GFI analogy is better suited to if the Frenzying player had Strip Ball, in which case no TD.

Ghost of Pariah · Post by **Ghost of Pariah** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 12:29 am

Oh, I see what he's saying. I thought he meant that the frenzy player was scoring by moving the ball carrier.
I would allow a TD but I'd allow a second block too. You all watch football. You know that play doesn't stop right at the whistle!

Vesticle · Post by **Vesticle** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 12:38 am

I was just thinking in terms of the "End of an action" phrase. I remember there was that argument about if a player could enter the end zone, pass out, and then receive a handoff to score. Guess that could be a point of clarification.

David