Throwing (this has done my nut in for years)

[Grumbledook]

no it isn't AG6 needs a 1+ to dodge

dodge into a tacklezone and roll a 2, -1 for the tacklezone you dodge into 2-1 = 1 which is what you needed for AG6

of course when I disputed this at the blood bowl everyone disagreed with me and that was the only game I lost which imo kept me out the final that year

funny how you say you ref the blood bowl cause you know the rules huh!

Confirmed by Ian in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=26858

[Xeterog]

They do have a spot in the rules where is specifically says a modified 1 is a fumble. I did know this, but mixed it up with the dodging thing. A modified 1 while dodging can succeed with 6+ AG.

Er..a modified 1 is always a failure on a D6 roll.

only when passing is a modified 1 a failure (fumble). Any other agility roll, a modified 1 can be a success if your agility is 6+.

a natural 1 is always a failure, but a modified 1 is not.

[Darkson]

funny how you say you ref the blood bowl cause you know the rules huh!

Never said that, just said I knew the rules better than some of the GW refs.

Consider myself told though - we've always played that modified 1s and 6's are fails and succeses respectivily.

[DoubleSkulls]

Unmodified 1s & 6s are fails & successes. Modified 1s when passing are fumbles, modified 6s don't have any special rules, but thinking about it I can't think of when one wouldn't be a success anyway.

[Grumbledook]

funny how you say you ref the blood bowl cause you know the rules huh!

Never said that, just said I knew the rules better than some of the GW refs.

orly!

Ok, having had a few days to "rant", I'm going to go ahead and ref. Tbh, I ref it for the community (so at least they have one person that knows what the rules of BB are), not "for" GW.

@Pug - cheers mate. If we don't bump into each other on Friday night, just look for me Saturday. I'll be the ref that actually knows what's going on ruleswise.

Your oft given newbie advice to use the search function begs to differ!

I've a chip on my shoulder regarding that rule after being incorrectly ruled wrong about it. The rules have worked like that since 3rd ed came out and to my knowledge not changed once in the last 15 years.

*takes know it all hat off*

[omnimutant]

I don't know why but I find myself somewhat confused all of a sudden

For fumble purposes, agility mean absolutely nothing then?

I want to make sure I have this correct. With no tackle zones and no weather conditions, a player throwing a short or quick pass will only fumble on a roll of 1. a Throw team mate roll will fumble on a 2 unless he has strong arm or accurate then he will only fumble on a 1 correct?

[daloonieshaman]

For fumble purposes, agility mean absolutely nothing then?

Correct

from what I read in the rule book a die roll of 1 or 6 before modification results in a failure/success in Dodge, Pass, Catch Intercept (6)

[slup]

a Throw team mate roll will fumble on a 2 unless he has strong arm or accurate then he will only fumble on a 1 correct?

TTM quick pass fumble on a 1
TTM short pass fumble on a 1-2 (unless strong arm/accurate)

[Wanchor]

no it isn't AG6 needs a 1+ to dodge

dodge into a tacklezone and roll a 2, -1 for the tacklezone you dodge into 2-1 = 1 which is what you needed for AG6

AG6 still needs a 2, but an AG6 player dodging into a single tackle zone ought to have passed his roll with a 2. He gets +1 for the dodge itself, after all. You got gypped.

[Grumbledook]

I know I did, that is what I was complaining about and explained the same thing you just said ;]

[Wanchor]

I think the audacity of fielding an AG6 player might have galvanized support for the opposition.

[Smurf]

RAW LRB6 p8

A roll of a 1 = a fail. Game basics, it works on 6s good 1s bad. Simple.

AG4 dodger/catch/intercept/bouncing
3+ required, throw die and add +1 to the result for dodging
3+ required, throw die and add +1 to the result for perfect pass
3+ required, throw die and -2 to the result for an interception
3+ required, throw die
AG5 dodger
2+ required, throw die and add +1 to the result for dodging
2+ required, throw die and add +1 to the result for perfect pass
2+ required, throw die and -2 to the result for an interception
2+ required, throw die

Remember game basics. Note the AG 5 player can dodge through a single tackle zone, pick up a ball in a tz etc with not much of a modifier. Scary bit is the 4+ roll to intercept.

AG6 dodger
1+ required, throw die and add +1 to the result for dodging
1+ required, throw die and add +1 to the result for perfect pass
1+ required, throw die and -2 to the result for an interception
1+ required, throw die

Like AG5 but can ignore up to 2 penalties. AG6 is not that good for throwing. AG 5 long bomber will get -2 as an AG 6, with no modifiers they will both fumble on a 3 or less as would anyone else. AG5 and 6 are exceptional and based on the roll of a d6 are limited success or failure, whereas less AGs have the inbetween ie the wobble ball.

Note, throwing skills offset the penalties.

[daloonieshaman]

how does AG5/AG6 fumble on a 3 with a long bomb I did not follow the math jump

[Smurf]

-2 to long bomb

[daloonieshaman]

thanks