PBeM for Idiots

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Okay, in this area we can list things that we have learned or questions about how do I do that ... I'm going to start with a list of all the skills that the PBeM software automatically handles certain features of as this is often a questions (certain means that it handles some or all)

Because the PBeM tool is designed to work with lots of different house rules ... you'll be surprised at the number of different rules that the game supports.

PLEASE NOTE: In order for a skill to work properly it MUST be spelled the way it is show below .. the only two exceptions to this currently are Regeneration which will work with any spelling starting with Regen and Razor Sharp Claws as RSC and RSF will also work for this.

Skills automatically handled in some fashion:
First the ones you expect:
General: Dauntless, Dirty Player, Leader, Nerves of Steel, Pass Block, Shadowing, Sure Hands, Tackle
Agility: Catch, Diving Tackle, Dodge, Jump Up, Leap, Side Step, Sprint, Sure Feet
Passing: Accurate, Hail Mary Pass, Pass, Strong Arm
Strength: Break Tackle, Guard, Mighty Blow, Piling On, Stand Firm
Physical: Big Hand, Claw, Extra Arms, Foul Appearance, Horns, Prehensile Tail, Razor Sharp Claws, Tentacles, Thick Skull, Two Heads, Very Long Legs
Characteristics: Bonehead, Hypnotic Gaze, Off for a Bite, Really Stupid, Regenerate, Right Stuff, Stunty, Take Root, Throw TeamMate, Wild Animal

Okay now the new skills available on skill rolls the tool detects:
Double Dauntless: Dauntless on offensive AND defense
Trip Up: tackle zone when prone (cannot affect assists)
Jam: Ability to use Agility contest to stop opponent who moves into your TZ.
Stiff Arm: -1 ST to a blitzer
Perfect Spiral: +1 to catch roll of accurate pass
Null Field/Tattoos: No modifiers to AV roll
Weather Immunity: Player not effected by weather at all.

Finally here are the skills that the game detects that are special along with what the game does:
ALLY: if 3rd edition, roll to lose team rerolls, if BB2k1 this player cannot use team rerolls.
Avoid: Player must roll to beat your AV before he can block you.
Ball and Chain: Player cannot be blocked accept by another Ball and Chain player ... is ST 6 when blocking.
Banishment: If less then 3 skills, player is killed by SI. If 3 or more skills, SIs are only Badly Hurt.
BIG GUY: if 3rd edition, player needs double star player points to advance, if BB2k1 this player cannot use team rerolls.
Brittle: +10 to Serious Injury rolls.
Chill: Allows a free action AV roll against Prone players to make them Stunned.
Cold Blooded: Player makes Bonehead rolls and cannot be on field during Blizzard
Cold Natured: Player makes Bonehead rolls and cannot be on field during Sweltering Heat
Cold Resistant: Long passes, GFI 2+ during Blizzard, Sweltering Heat 1 or 2.
Crystal Skin: First AV break must be rerolled.
Daemonic Aura: No AV modifiers ... any casualty injury result = Death.
DeathRoller: +7 to fouling AV roll.
Dprog: player needs double the number of star player points to advance.
DSW #+: Secret Weapon roll for possible ejection each drive he DOES NOT play ... # is the number to roll equal or higher than ... (player can still use Stunty doding rules)
Easily Injured: +1 to injury
Elephant Trunk: -1 to Dodges, +1 to pickup/catch
Ethereal: Agility roll to pass through an opposing player in a straight line
Foul Appearance L#: player must make a FA roll that equals/beats the # to block instead of the normal 2+.
Fragile: If player attempts to catch the ball either from a pass or bouncing ball and fails they are Stunned by the ball. ALSO, the player cannot GFI when holding the football.
GFI Injury: if falls down from GFI, makes injury roll without armour first.
Gluttony: Player misses drive on a 1. If he is also a Wild Animal, he'll miss on a 1-3.
Greater Glory: Player must move before other players.
Heat Resistant: Sweltering Heat rolls during Blizzard, not effected by Sweltering Heat.
Honorable: player cannot foul or assist a foul.
House Fly Head: -2 to pickup/catch/pass/intercept
Iron Man: Player may never be injured worse than Stunned.
MA D6: Players rolls D6 when choosen to see how many squares he can move this turn.
Mace Tail: Agility based roll against opposing player instead of a Block action to knock the player down. Success results in -1 AV/+1 Inj rolls.
No MVPs: player cannot be chosen for the MVP
Nonball Handler: player cannot pickup/catch/intercept the ball
Not Worthy: If player is holding the ball at beginning of turn, roll a D6, failure means they must move 1st and must pass, handoff, or drop the ball without scoring this turn.
NoRot: Player never makes Nurgles Rot rolls at end of game
Obese: cannot GFI
Pulled Punches: This player may never injury an opponent worse than Stunned.
Running Chainsaw: +3 to AV roll when blocked and knocked down or assisting/throwing a foul.
Rusting: cannot be on the pitch during Pouring Rain
Single Eye: must reroll first accurate pass
Spontaneous Combustion: roll a D6 at beginning of each turn if not injured, on a 1 he explodes
SSW #+: Secret Weapon roll for possible ejection each drive he plays ... # is the number to roll equal or higher than ... (player can still use Stunty dodging rules)
Stone Cold Stupid: player makes Really Stupid rolls and cannot be on field during Sweltering Heat
SW #+: Secret Weapon roll for possible ejection each drive he plays ... # is the number to roll equal or higher than ... (player CANNOT use Stunty dodging rules)
Third Eye: +1 to quick/short passes, -1 to long/long bomb
TIKSTPK: Bonehead roll except that the player automatically regains their Tackle Zone at the beginning of the player's next turn. If they fail the roll two consectutive turns, the player explodes and dies.
Titchy: D6/2 round down extra players allowed on pitch each kickoff. +2 to Dodge, +2 to Injury, no -1 to dodges into their TZ.
Uncontrollable: When selected, rolls a D6, on a 1 they move D6 squares in a random direction.
Unstable: At end of each drive, player misses rest of match on a 1 or 2.
Vampiric Change: cannot be on field during Very Sunny, if one field and weather changes to Very Sunny=player injured.
Waaagh Armour: no modifiers to either AV or Injury roll.
War Cry: Before the player has moved, they may use this skill to make all adjacent players lose their tackles zones, players from your team affect by this may not move this turn.
Will He Show?: Player misses first drive of 1st half on 1.
Wings: Player may use the Leap ability if he has moved at least 2 squares first with +2 to the roll. If the player ALSO has Wings, they may "leap" 3 squares instead of 2.

Also note the specials for the following team names:
Bright Crusaders: -1 to all AV rolls, if Niggled out can still play on a 2nd 6
Evil Gits: +1 to endgame FF roll
Halfling: if Wizard is shown, games makes Halfling Chef rolls.
Heroes of Law: +1 to endgame FF roll
Hobgobllin: +1 to the Argue the Call roll
Nurgles Rotters: entire team makes Nurgle's Rot rolls at the end of the game.
Vampire-Lahmian: Player type of Vampire gets +1 to all Hypnotic Gaze rolls
Vampire-Necrarch: Regeneration on 3+ instead of 4+ for all players.

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How do I knock a player off the pitch? If I get a result that results in the player being knocked off the pitch I have been making an injury roll and then removing him from the pitch. Is this right? Thanks

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Post by GalakStarscraper »

Correct, if you knock a player off the pitch, just click on the injury roll for the player and apply the results with Stunned = Reserves.

Couple things that some players don't know about the official rules:

1) If you Pow a player off the pitch, you do not get to roll for armour for possible SPPs ... only the crowd injury roll is done.
2) You may not use an apothecary to heal an injury from the crowd.

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I saw a thread called PBEM for Idiots, immediatly I clicked on it. ;)

Anyway, I just have a question. The author of the program, Ronald Lokers, he isn't on this board? Do you have any input on the program? If I understand it correcly you made some changes in the configuration of the program for your leagues. And also compiled the picturepackage for players?

If one person starts the game, does he roll for who win's the toss, and if its the other player, he send the log to him and says he chooses? How many times do you send the log per game? At least 16 turns + some start and finish actions, I assume?

Also I'm not that familiar with a html code generator either, but I did briefly check the xls team tracker (Milo Sharps). And as a demo for the software, I downloaded two teams from your MBBL league.

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Pantera wrote:I saw a thread called PBEM for Idiots, immediatly I clicked on it. ;)
That's what it's here for ... :D
Anyway, I just have a question. The author of the program, Ronald Lokers, he isn't on this board?
No
Do you have any input on the program?
Look at the About ... you'll find my name under additional programming. Ronald designed 90% of the program, I started helping him write the program in October 2001. I've written the modules that handle all the MBBL2 special skills and rules and all the Targetted actions, plus several of the areas that dealt with changes to the rules from 3rd edition using the LRB.
If I understand it correcly you made some changes in the configuration of the program for your leagues. And also compiled the picturepackage for players?
Yeah, that also
If one person starts the game, does he roll for who win's the toss, and if its the other player, he send the log to him and says he chooses? How many times do you send the log per game? At least 16 turns + some start and finish actions, I assume?
Whoever starts the program should go through all the pregame buttons (flipping the coin is one of them) ... based on the flip you either than set up to kick or email it back to your opponent for them to set up to kick. If you use the rules for PBeM used by the MBBL, MBBL2, and RABBL, a game really only takes like 17 turns each (16 turns + post game) ... by using the leagues for these rules, you place the ball either on the pitch or in private email when you kick so that you don't burn an extra email for kickoffs.
Also I'm not that familiar with a html code generator either, but I did briefly check the xls team tracker (Milo Sharps). And as a demo for the software, I downloaded two teams from your MBBL league.
That's the way to go.

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Post by McDeth »

Galak.

I am currently trying to edit my html to include the Nasta Masta as Head Coach of a Hobgoblin team. If i am successful, does the software allow for any of the rules on the MBBL Site

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Post by GalakStarscraper »

Actually ..... hmmmm ....

I changed the team to make the Nasta Masta free for the team.

The PBeM software automatically adds the bonus the Masta gets to all argue the call rolls if the team is Hobgoblin because of this. That's the only on automated so far, but its based on team name not the wizard slot since the Masta is supposed to be free now.

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Post by McDeth »

Thanks Galak,

So it works of the team name, cheers.

Probably didn't work for me as i set it up in team tracker as Chaos Dwarf.
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Here's the rule for handling Apothecaries.

If the coach that inflicts the casualty is going to have players march over the square (during the remainder of the current turn) that the opponent would have been prone in if the apothecary was used, then you need to send the file to your opponent before finishing your turn.

If your opponent used his apothecary you plan on fouling the player during the remainder of your turn, then you need to send the file to your opponent before finishing your turn.

Otherwise, you just finish your turn ... if the ball lands in that square for any reason, then you'll need to send the file to your opponent before finishing your turn ... but this is very, very rare.

Basically if a prone player on the pitch in that square effects the remainder of your turn, you need to send the file to your opponent before proceeding ... otherwise you just finish your turn.

98% of the time, you'll be able to finish your turn ... at the end of your turn it is considered polite to mention to your opponent any casualties inflicted for possible apothecary use. When your opponent receives the file, if he wishes to use the apothecary he would roll the D6, success allows him to return the player to the pitch prone in the square that they would have been in.

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Post by bubb »

How do you exactly go about using the APO during game play with the PBeM tool?

This is very confusing to me in terms of what steps in what order to take and what the tool does for you and what is required manually. Could you shed some light on this?

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Post by GalakStarscraper »

Say you are using the Apoth ... type it into the log for which player.
Click on the Apoth button to show you've used him.

If for a Niggle, move the player from Niggle to reserve.

If for an injury, roll a D6, on a 2+ put the player back on the field prone otherwise it fails.

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Post by lightingbug »

I have a question for the Post Game Sequences. I figured out the majority of the roll stuff and how to do star players points, but how do I update my roster file to play in a new game?

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If you press the teams button and wiew red/blue team when you are in the tool there is a button that says update team roster.
if you press this one you can update your roster in HTML format.

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Post by Tanetus »

Umm... Is frenzy novadays a trait or skill? Can it be learned?

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Tanetus wrote:Umm... Is frenzy novadays a trait or skill? Can it be learned?
Frenzy is a trait ... doubles skill roll for any player but the stunty ones.

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