Pile On Re-vote!

Sushé Wakka · Post by **Sushé Wakka** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:24 pm

Sixpack595 wrote:I'm sick of all the rules changes that hurt basher teams, when are we going to stop the real enemy...the one turn scorers? Thats cheese.

Here, here! Quit poking my poor Norse Blitzers and start poking those cheese-eaters and tree-huggers! (gutter Runners and Wood elf catchers)

ZanzerTem · Post by **ZanzerTem** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:27 pm

Bleh, Skaven haven't got much else going for them besides 1 turners, and Wood Elves are just too damned breakable to be consistent.........Line up correctly and they will fail their dodges/GFI's eventually

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:31 pm

skaven move 9 blodge dauntless horns ag4 gutter runners

fantastic players ;]

wesleytj · Post by **wesleytj** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:41 pm

Bloodbasher Masher wrote:Bleh, Skaven haven't got much else going for them besides 1 turners, and Wood Elves are just too damned breakable to be consistent.........Line up correctly and they will fail their dodges/GFI's eventually

that's not true, skaven are soo much more than 1-turn scoring. i like to think of them as "poor man's elves" with mutations. how can you go wrong with that?

and gutter runners are the most versatile players in the game...if all you see when you look at them is "one-turn score" you're missing out. Give one horns, dauntless, and block sometime... (that used to be only 1 doubles roll, now it's 2) Or try one with shadow, tackle, blk, and sidestep and they can get spps fast enough that 4 skills doesn't take that long.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:47 pm

yer shadowing tackle and diving tackle is a nightmare

i played a goblin team and diving tackle is really annoying to play against

wesleytj · Post by **wesleytj** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:48 pm

bah the old skill was still way better

and no i will never give up on that one.

ZanzerTem · Post by **ZanzerTem** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:53 pm

Gutter Runners with those list of skills would be targets. From what I've seen from other coaches, Gutter Runners tend not to last long enough to get that list. Even moreso now with the Aging table.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:58 pm

they aren't affected greatly compared to the 1 turner when it comes to aging and my gutter runners have lasted ages, its linerats that get twatted all the time

wesleytj · Post by **wesleytj** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:58 pm

Bloodbasher Masher wrote:Gutter Runners with those list of skills would be targets. From what I've seen from other coaches, Gutter Runners tend not to last long enough to get that list. Even moreso now with the Aging table.

well like a 1-turn scorer isn't a target.

seriously a gutter runner is born with a big bullseye on his nose. (not a mutation) you just build up as much as you can.

I've played skaven in pretty violent leagues and got them up pretty high... the fact that you have 4, and that they often have blk and dge, means that despite their target status they can live a while.

Now, I haven't played skaven since lrb came out, so ageing might be an issue, but by the 4th skill they're not that likely to be too bad off...probably 1 failed roll or so on average. I'd keep one of those rats on my team with a niggler, he'd still be worth it.

MistWraith · Post by **MistWraith** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:04 am

I voted to reduse the bonus and make it befor the roll!

But, if you keep it like it is and make both players roll to break their armor (the one w/PO adds his st to his roll) then I would think it fixed.

wesleytj · Post by **wesleytj** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:15 am

MistWraith wrote:I voted to reduse the bonus and make it befor the roll!

But, if you keep it like it is and make both players roll to break their armor (the one w/PO adds his st to his roll) then I would think it fixed.

you're kidding right? who would take the skill then? no way would i ever pile on if i could get hurt in the actual process of piling. you cushion your fall with the dude you're falling on!

Dangerous Dave · Post by **Dangerous Dave** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:21 am

All that needs to happen is..... wait for it....

Make Block

Oppo down

Choose to use P On or not

Roll av and place your player prone

IE before the av roll.

Simple

Dave

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 1:04 am

Skummy wrote:Zombie: Bloodbasher's league also uses the declare after, and is having some problems with PO.

Well of course he is if they declare it after the roll!

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 1:06 am

Bloodbasher Masher wrote:Actually, we use the old "declare before AV roll", which is what some people what to change it back to. We STILL have problems with this way, now that fouling a prone player is more risky, especially with IGMEOY.

I think your only problem is that your league hasn't realized how powerful fouling still is.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 1:38 am

I must say that so far i'm surprised by the result of the poll, but very happy with it!

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