Salary cap : use this thread

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:05 pm

Salary cap would be a more 'realistic' way to go but I don't think many coaches would like the additional book keeping. BB is a fun, fairly simple game and there are many people who want to keep it as simple as possible. Personally, I wouldn't mind it, but extra book keeping doesn't bother me.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:22 pm

I agree Wesleytj, but with Brown standing back at last do you see improvement a possibility? I hope not being a Browns man, but the AFC North could be a cliff hanger next season!

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:24 pm

I don't mind the paper work, all part of the enjoyment-seeing your team change.

wesleytj · Post by **wesleytj** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:31 pm

DeputyDawg wrote:I agree Wesleytj, but with Brown standing back at last do you see improvement a possibility? I hope not being a Browns man, but the AFC North could be a cliff hanger next season!

yeah i think the bungles will start getting better over the next few seasons...maybe. of course the "experts" keep saying that all the time too. And they will have to adjust to a new coach as well, so they may start kinda slow.

Seriously though, I think if they leave Kitna in there and upgrade the D a LOT (losing spikes doesn't help) there's hope. But I think the Browns will be VERY good, and the Ravens will be better as well. Pittsburgh will go nowhere but up with Maddox as well (esp now that Zerouoe[sp?] has proven he can take over for the bus) so the whole division is going to be competitive next season.

In fact I'm seeing Bucs/Steelers next yr. in the Super Bowl to be honest, altho I haven't gotten both teams right in a long time.

So, kinda like Arizona last year, I think the Bungles will be better, but due to improved competition, their record may not show it.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 8:03 pm

Pariah wrote:As for your point on accuracy zombie. I don't see how you call that accurate? Using Anthony's example (just a little differently) YOur system would rate a player with 76 SPPs much lower than someone with 125 but they have the same skill level on the field, not very accurate IMO.

That's what i said. Your approach is more accurate, but accuracy should never be chosen at the detriment of simplicity.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 8:35 pm

So Wesleytj, just perusing here, the Ravens are definately on the up, although I had hoped to see those Ratbirds in the doldrums for a while, just goes to show what a good coach can do. The Browns I'm not sure. Weve lost some experienced men. The Steelers keep blowing it, but I agree they should still have enough in reserve to keep the Division. The Bungals I agreee again, a loose cannon, but new routes to learn should still see them down the bottom. The hope for the Browns is to see Miller back, although we could lose him, and have a good draft on the O-Line or at least get some from buying some cut offs. I can see the Bucs overall again but back to backs are rare these days. Which is your team?

wesleytj · Post by **wesleytj** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 8:52 pm

I've been a bucs fan ever since they picked up Alstott (i'm a big Purdue fan). It also helped that they got rid of those putrid orange jerseys the next year....their "new" look is way cool

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:09 pm

Yeah they have definately toughened up their image. I didn't think they would do it this year, too many Seasons of flopping out before they should have. My money was on the Rams pre-season, but they never even made it to the Play-Offs! The greatest show on turf! It fooled me.

wesleytj · Post by **wesleytj** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:18 pm

DeputyDawg wrote:Yeah they have definately toughened up their image. I didn't think they would do it this year, too many Seasons of flopping out before they should have. My money was on the Rams pre-season, but they never even made it to the Play-Offs! The greatest show on turf! It fooled me.

well they lost a lot in the playoffs in previous seasons for several reasons I think. Primarily these:

1. They were two predictable. Run on 1st down, RUn on 2nd down, pass on 3rd.
2. Somewhat related, Dungy was a good coach but he's the laid back type. That will cut it during the regular season, but in playoffs you have to be kinda tough. And you have to be willing to do things you haven't done all year.
3. Their recievers sucked.

As for the Rams, I think they fooled everybody. Like I said it's been a while since I got both superbowl teams right. Last year I said Raiders v Rams. Just as soon as Warner had everybody convinced he wasn't a fluke, he gets this seemingly incurable recurring thumb injury that kills his throwing. Losing Orlando Pace for most of the year hurt Faulk's #'s too. That showed how sucky their defense actually was all along, then IT got worse when Aeneas Williams got hurt, and it all fell apart.

Ghost of Pariah · Post by **Ghost of Pariah** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 2:05 am

Zombie wrote: That's what i said. Your approach is more accurate, but accuracy should never be chosen at the detriment of simplicity.

D'oh! Sorry, my mistake. I have an eye infection and my contacts were causing me great pain so I've been surfing with less than 20/40 vision.
I got my glasses fixed and now that I can read again I see that I goofed. Sorry. lol

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 6:34 am

DeputyDawg wrote:I don't mind the paper work, all part of the enjoyment-seeing your team change.

I really can't see who would enjoy the situations forced by a salary cap!
"I see, now I have to retire someone because of some silly cap - I wish someone would rather age or die"

Only a selected few will like this system. An important part of the enjoyment is the fact that you can dream of transforming your team into that TR600 monster where every player has at least four skills. No-one will ever get there, but it's really disappointing if you can actually calculate how many SPP's your team can get before you can't get any more without being forced to retire players.

Anthony_TBBF · Post by **Anthony_TBBF** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 4:33 pm

I'nm pretty sure this isn't a thread on the NFL. Stay on topic please.

Ghost of Pariah · Post by **Ghost of Pariah** » Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:32 pm

Mestari wrote: Only a selected few will like this system. An important part of the enjoyment is the fact that you can dream of transforming your team into that TR600 monster where every player has at least four skills. No-one will ever get there, but it's really disappointing if you can actually calculate how many SPP's your team can get before you can't get any more without being forced to retire players.

Well if your league likes those 800 pound gorrilas then they can just set the cap higher...what so hard about that?

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 9:14 am

No way Mestari! If the rule is that all teams have a TR limit then it is up to you as a Coach to decide who to cut. Aging can affect all players. A TR limit is likely to affect one or two occasionally. Much fairer.

gken1 · Post by **gken1** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 11:23 am

To make a salary cap in blood bowl you would have to give a team say xxxxx gold per season to spend on everything. At the end of the season you re-evaluate everyone's cost then figure out who you want to keep and who you can't afford. But bloodbowl works on a game to game basis with money that you get after the game is supposed to be your "profit" after paying for those players.

If you want to play with a TR cap go ahead and make it a house rule. I think there should always be a chance of developing that power house team. I don't see how you could make a TR cap an official rule. "Official Blood Bowl rules" say no team can have a TR over 250. Then some league will say well we want to play with a cap of 400.
Then they will be criticized for not playing "official" bloodbowl.

Ken

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