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Mestari wrote:I have to agree with Redfang. Lack of high ST is the downfall of dwarven teams nowadays in longer leagues if they can't even take an ogre.
How long is longer .... my league has had 11 games since it started and Dwarves are currently: 1st, 10th, and 27th out of 44 teams. IE, I'm not really seeing Dwarves hurting at this point.
Out of the 19 races that have played at least 10 games or more, Dwarves overall currently have the 3rd highest winning percentage in my league (behind Amazon and Chaos Pact) and are second highest in the league behind the Khemri for average casualties caused per a game with 2.82.
Seriously unless ... unless you tell me they start getting beat up at like 20 games played, I'm not seeing what you are all saying about Dwarves needing assistance at all.
MistWraith wrote:Only Stunty teams should have more than one. But, even the two elf teams (and any other team without) that currently do not have a Big Guy should be allowed one.
The key is to balance the Big Guy they can have, so that him negatives are equel to the positves of having him. This way the team balance stays the same. Currently this is not the case, as most teams that can have big guys take the oger, who is almost all positves with very little negative. Thus the game becomes "oger ball".
Maybe they should look into making boneheaded more negative.
I agree that stuntys should be the only ones that can take 2 Big Guys. I'd be happy if they were the only teams who could take Big Guys at all.
I don't think any Elf team should have them. Period. Wood Elves may have Treemen in their armies but they wouldn't even think of using them on a Blood Bowl team. They're about speed and precision, not brute force.
Redfang wrote:Elves are not a Strength team; they have other weapons to defend themselves with, such as High AG (and dodge) allowing them to dodge away from Blockers and Big Guys, they also have a very good throwing game and a high mobility, which Dwarfs also lack
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The statement was that the lack of high strength was the Dwarven downfall. I understand that Elves have other abilities. I was just commenting that it was an incomplete thought because it could be taken to mean that any team that didn't have access to ST4 players needed, or should have, a Big Guy.
snotsngrots wrote:I don't think any Elf team should have them. Period. Wood Elves may have Treemen in their armies but they wouldn't even think of using them on a Blood Bowl team. They're about speed and precision, not brute force.
Sure they would!! After the 7th or 8th lineman gets "sacrificed" to the chaos warrior, I would imagine the sly wood elf coach would eventually think of putting the tree there for the chaos warrior to pound his head against, leaving the REST of his team alive long enough to perfect their speed and precision.
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don't think any Elf team should have them. Period. Wood Elves may have Treemen in their armies but they wouldn't even think of using them on a Blood Bowl team. They're about speed and precision, not brute force.
I agree, at most i would allow the wood elves, 0-2 Dryads.
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don't think any Elf team should have them. Period. Wood Elves may have Treemen in their armies but they wouldn't even think of using them on a Blood Bowl team. They're about speed and precision, not brute force.
I agree, at most i would allow the wood elves, 0-2 Dryads.
I wouldn't start adding positions. Trim them back to the humanoids and they're still a great and competetive team.
snotsngrots wrote:I don't think any Elf team should have them. Period. Wood Elves may have Treemen in their armies but they wouldn't even think of using them on a Blood Bowl team. They're about speed and precision, not brute force.
Sure they would!! After the 7th or 8th lineman gets "sacrificed" to the chaos warrior, I would imagine the sly wood elf coach would eventually think of putting the tree there for the chaos warrior to pound his head against, leaving the REST of his team alive long enough to perfect their speed and precision.
Spoken like a true Human trying to think like an Elf. Maybe so, but would a real Elf coach permanently give up a spot on his roster for one? No, I don't think so.
True...new player wanted to play BB in our league...wanted to play Woodelves (which is balsy in it's own right to play that team on your initial christening to BB)...after two games had to retire the team due to too many deaths and injuries.
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The end-zone “line of death” does not discriminate when one tempts fate by using a “go for it” to pass over it.
Quite frankly, if he was a newbie, he shouldn't have been going anywhere NEAR wood elves. For the record, a Wood Elf team is the by far best team in our league. It recently beat a norse team 7-0, despite losing the casualties 6-1. Played well they are the best team in BB, and very nearly unstoppable.
Toby - if you HONESTLY believe that wood elf teams should have 0-4 Treemen then you are through stupid and into whatever lies beyond.
Wood Elves have no need of a Treeman.
The answer to this whole question is LESS big guys - not more of the damned things.
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Thadrin wrote:Quite frankly, if he was a newbie, he shouldn't have been going anywhere NEAR wood elves.
I know...I even asked him seveal times if that was the race he wanted to play...so he knew what was at hand going in. He is now playing second try at the team and is doing much better...
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Thandrin my 3rd Edition Woodelf Team was allowed 4 permanent Treemen Starplayers. I managed to get two ONCE, and the newly purchased died in the next game.
I wouldn't mind if you allowed SIX treemen to a woodelf team...
I have to say that if ogres are removed from the dwarfs then the treemen should come off the wood elf roster.
And galak I don't see what you eman. You only have one dwarf roster without an ogre. I don't see why you have any evidence that removing the ogres wouldn't harm the team. I'm not saying it would but I don't see your evidence that it wouldn't. Just because one team managed to win one season without an ogre doesn't mean that they should be taken away.
I've seen plenty of human teams win without ogres too. Is that reason to remove them from the human roster?
Maybe so, but would a real Elf coach permanently give up a spot on his roster for one? No, I don't think so.
