I found this and thought of Toby :)

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Wed May 07, 2003 8:08 pm

I post like I play, alway taking maximum risk...

whatever we will see what happens in the future.
sweden just scored the equalizer 5:5 forsberg, and canada baet germany in ot. damn leafmaples.

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Wed May 07, 2003 8:10 pm

Deathwing wrote:Toby, you just don't get it do you? I'm aware of warhammer online, but that is not a translation of WFB. It's a roleplayer, a kind of super MUD if you will. If GW moves more into online gaming then it will be games specifically designed for the PC market, but set in the GW universe.
Look at Fire Warrior in you want an example. It's a first person shooter.
Turn based translations simply don't work and won't sell. Look at Dark Omen and Space Hulk. Both worked real time.

I aware of the TBS vs RTS issue.
I say: 2 players works, but not more.

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Wed May 07, 2003 8:13 pm

BlanchPrez wrote: One last thing. Perhaps you are crusading on the wrong message board. I believe that you should go to some GW official message boards and post your ideas for an Online version of BB there.

NOOOOOoooooooooooo!!!!!!

This fool here has to moderate the GW BB board. I'd have to resign.

Post by **Thadrin** » Wed May 07, 2003 8:54 pm

Toby wrote:www.warhammeronline.com

In all honesty, and without respect, you are clueless newbies.

Games Workshop tells me, while not rushing into online gaming, they set course for it, starting with Warhammer and they possibly expand that network to other Game Systems of theirs. GW Germany offers jobs for Data-Bank skilled programmers to "implement online leagues".

The Miniature Gaming you love, is a smal Market-Gap for freaks. Compared to Online Gaming it's like German Comedy Films to Holywood Action Movies.

You have a choice to Influence that Developement NOW.
If you ignore this process you will simply be surprised by the retail game some day, and a lot of people will complain:

Why didin't they liten to the tabletop veterans in the first place ???

And let me tell you Starcraft and Counterstrike are absolutely not about graphics. They are not even that much about winning or loosing. They are about providing a virtual place where you can experience adventures with others as if you were in the same room. The internet is used to eliminate the barrier of time and place.

Toby, PLEASE try and remember a few key points:
1) Addressing people the way you do would - if you said it to our face - earn you a sound kicking. This does not help our views of any of your wacky ideas. Neither does your "I am right because I say so" attitude.
2) The majority of folk here are certainly not newbies to Blood Bowl.
3) The majority couldn't give a flying f**k about Starcraft or Counterstrike. You want Online Blood Bowl...fine, but your opinions carry zero weight until you have played a while in FUMBBL.
4) The chance of Games Workshop actually listening to us is minimal at best. Fanatic MAYBE....GW never.
5) What Deathwing said. Completely different styles of gaming.

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Wed May 07, 2003 9:27 pm

Toby wrote: and canada baet germany in ot. damn leafmaples.

When did Germans ever know how to play hockey??

Icedman · Post by **Icedman** » Thu May 08, 2003 9:02 am

Toby wrote: And let me tell you Starcraft and Counterstrike are absolutely not about graphics. They are not even that much about winning or loosing. They are about providing a virtual place where you can experience adventures with others as if you were in the same room. The internet is used to eliminate the barrier of time and place.

The funny thing is, in my limited experience in these two games, to a significant minority (at least), it is about winning, or more correctly, about stats.

I play Urban Terror (Quake3 mod) online, basically Counterstrike without the missions. I'm lucky enough to be in a country consisting of (mostly) laid-back kinda people that play these games for enjoyment, as you said. But still there are people who I play against that are far more concerned with their kill/death ratio than conversing with other players.

Counterstrike seems (at least here) to contain a majority of "stat whores", as we call them; people who will cry "WTF!?!?" whenever they are killed, almost as quick as they cry "U WOZ OWNED!!!!!!!!!" when they kill you.

And my single online Starcraft experience is the very reason I don't play that game online: I had an opponent diconnect to protect his perfect win record.

I don't disagree that the idea behind such games is to break down the location barriers, as you said, but I have experienced quite a bit of "I must WIN!!!" attitude from online gaming.

Relborn · Post by **Relborn** » Thu May 08, 2003 9:44 am

Torg wrote: When did Germans ever know how to play hockey??

They never did ... but it's quite fun to watch our guys on the ice

Rufio of Montrose · Post by **Rufio of Montrose** » Thu May 08, 2003 12:19 pm

Toby wrote:
And let me tell you Starcraft and Counterstrike are absolutely not about graphics. They are not even that much about winning or loosing. They are about providing a virtual place where you can experience adventures with others as if you were in the same room. The internet is used to eliminate the barrier of time and place.[/quote].
Hi, I personally not played STARCRAFT, but played MASTER OF ORION I and II, and the reason for not playing III was graphics. I believe WHF RPG is similar to BG RPG or any other, it´s simply to post another game in a already tested market. In relation to WHF armies they produced Dark Omen for Play I which was quite good aldo the graphics were questionable and the game carried a straight line option, once you win - no more game. I agree that internet eliminates the barrier of time and place but in my opinion it is impossible to recreate the same spirit and atmosphere of the game in a pc (I must add that many people don´t behave the same behind a monitor), so the closest you can achieve to similarities is to stick to similar rules.
Only an opinion
Rufio of Montrose