Which Halfling team is more capable of winning?

martynq · Post by **martynq** » Thu May 08, 2003 2:17 pm

I voted for A...
the ogres will make a considerable difference - an ogre is much harder to avoid than a tree, especially one that no longer has a TZ.

The kicker for team B won't make a lot of difference.

The Chef is a little better for B, but won't make as much difference as the ogre vs. the immobile trees.

Martyn

Post by **Thadrin** » Thu May 08, 2003 2:29 pm

I prefer team B as an option.

Team A I think is clearly stronger - get this, me agreeing with Toby, because he hit the nail on the head.
Especially combined with that Chef version.

Sputnik · Post by **Sputnik** » Thu May 08, 2003 2:51 pm

I voted for A

-since kick won't help you too much on such a 'slow' team (and is expensive)
-the ogres are faster (=more range) and more reliable
-on pitch take root will shut down a player on the filed in team B leaving you with ten (at best). In team A you can at least field 11 players actually doing something, and if only to create a tackle zone or soak up a blitz.
-master chef is only slightly worse on team A, not enough to have a big impact

Sputnik

JasonC · Post by **JasonC** » Thu May 08, 2003 2:56 pm

I voted B.
Personally I think Ogres are overrated.
Stealing rerolls can make a big difference.

ZanzerTem · Post by **ZanzerTem** » Thu May 08, 2003 2:56 pm

GalakStarscraper wrote:Which one is more capable of winning?

Team A due to the ogres.

GalakStarscraper wrote:Which one is the one you'd rather see in the rules?

Team B. The current 1/2fling team bores me to death.

SBG · Post by **SBG** » Thu May 08, 2003 3:11 pm

I voted A.

I always play with one of each BG, so if my Treeman get stuck, I still have some ST on the pitch. Higher AG makes the TTM option more likeable.

Fred

High & Mighty · Post by **High & Mighty** » Thu May 08, 2003 3:31 pm

I go for B. The only issue might be that Hafling cages might not be as effective since the longer the drive, the more chance your tree may take root so there might be some pressue to score quicker with B. Things could also go worserer faster with B since a long drive either way may mean not only are your haflings getting pounded but your trees have taken root and are out of it.

Early in development

Teams need rerolls because they lack skills--->advantage B

Treeman need 1 assist for 3dice, Ogres need 2 so Ogres expect to fail more blocks. --->advantage B

ST6 alot harder to get even 1die block on than ST5 so trees stand longer and have AR10 so get hurt less--->advantage B

Treeman and Ogres fumble TTM at the same rate--->advantage none (ok a smidgen for the Ogre since the landing may be easier once and a while...but you can reroll that roll)

2 Ogres 20k more so may have less depth or ff to start--->advantage B

Later in team development

Teams don't need rerolls as much but now haflings have money to spent 20k and get two rerolls a half...or if it's really important 40k and 3 rerolls --->advantage B

Ogre gets block but Treemen get Pro and now don't get stuck nearly as often --->advantage B

McDeth · Post by **McDeth** » Thu May 08, 2003 3:34 pm

I've gone for team A as the team geared best towards winning, because i think the Ogres are much better, particularly the Ag 2 against 1 diff.

Although not to do with the poll, i'd rather see Team B

BlanchPrez · Post by **BlanchPrez** » Thu May 08, 2003 3:40 pm

I voted for B because I think the free halfling chef is a big advantage in my opinion. Stealing re-rolls can really help a team out. Also, being able to use the tree more often is a big advantage in my mind.

Chris

Pitch Dark · Post by **Pitch Dark** » Thu May 08, 2003 7:35 pm

I dont think that the MC version 2 is thats good in the begining. You need to pay him each half, wich can be expensive. It Is good later on in teamdevelopment though, if you REALLY wanna be anoying and steal all 8 of the opponents rerolls..

But it would cost though, but might be better than putting that money into a starplayer.

As for kick i have never really found it that useful, not something you can rely on, and really not big factor in my mind. It could be a little useful against slow-low agility teams, but they dont care much about the ball anyway when facing halflings.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu May 08, 2003 8:22 pm

the master chef on b is free its the head coach

Dark Lord (retired) · Post by **Dark Lord (retired)** » Thu May 08, 2003 9:13 pm

Those aren't the teams we discussed. Like I said, you are impossible to talk to because you don't read what I write.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu May 08, 2003 9:15 pm

dark lord who was that aimed at, you got me confused?

Balrog · Post by **Balrog** » Thu May 08, 2003 9:29 pm

Wow, that new version of Take Root is horrible!!

-Balrog

darthnoir · Post by **darthnoir** » Thu May 08, 2003 9:29 pm

Team A

In my experience, Ogres are far more reliable than Treemen. Even with the new Take Rule proposal, it seems like the Treemen will have sort of a "Super Bone Head". I think the power that Ogres provide for a team even out weighs the Chef's ability (especially when going against developed teams).

Granted, I don't play the Halfings (or the Goblins) to win. I play for the comedy

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Which Halfling team is more capable of winning?

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