Kick Rules.

DaImp · Post by **DaImp** » Wed May 21, 2003 7:52 am

I like the idea of being able to kick the ball on the BB pitch, but I don't like being able to score from a kick.
So I feel there is a place for kicking in BB (especially the "up and under" type kicks) but it should not directly result in points being scored. A TD should remain the only way to score.
All that is neither here nor there but I thought I would share my opinion on kicking anyhow

McDeth · Post by **McDeth** » Wed May 21, 2003 9:39 am

DaImp wrote:I like the idea of being able to kick the ball on the BB pitch, but I don't like being able to score from a kick.
So I feel there is a place for kicking in BB (especially the "up and under" type kicks) but it should not directly result in points being scored. A TD should remain the only way to score.
All that is neither here nor there but I thought I would share my opinion on kicking anyhow

I Agree entirely

Cool Hand Fluke · Post by **Cool Hand Fluke** » Wed May 21, 2003 9:57 am

McDeth wrote:
DaImp wrote:I like the idea of being able to kick the ball on the BB pitch, but I don't like being able to score from a kick.
So I feel there is a place for kicking in BB (especially the "up and under" type kicks) but it should not directly result in points being scored. A TD should remain the only way to score.
All that is neither here nor there but I thought I would share my opinion on kicking anyhow
I Agree entirely

I watched a BB game a few months ago. The HE player did nothing but kick for points. I wasn't playing BB at the time and didn't realise the kicking rules weren't official. The guys opponent said it was the worst game he'd ever took part in.

Now i'm not saying the HE player was a typical player or that there's no place in the game for kicking. But watching that game didn't make me want to rush out and buy BB

Mirascael · Post by **Mirascael** » Wed May 21, 2003 5:02 pm

I don't like the fact that there are kick-offs without any chance to score (i.e. turn 8 ). I'd like to see every team having a chance to score, no matter how slim that chance might be. If this could be achieved by progressive GFI's or Field Goals, I don't know. I simply don't like that "have to put 3 players on the LoS and block it out"-thing as it is now so often.

Post by **Dave** » Wed May 21, 2003 8:28 pm

why?

Isn't that the strenght of some (skaven / woody / stunty) teams while other teams excell more a t making sure the players that can score in one turn are off the pitch by that time ?

McDeth · Post by **McDeth** » Wed May 21, 2003 8:50 pm

Cool Hand Fluke wrote:
McDeth wrote:
DaImp wrote:I like the idea of being able to kick the ball on the BB pitch, but I don't like being able to score from a kick.
So I feel there is a place for kicking in BB (especially the "up and under" type kicks) but it should not directly result in points being scored. A TD should remain the only way to score.
All that is neither here nor there but I thought I would share my opinion on kicking anyhow
I Agree entirely
I watched a BB game a few months ago. The HE player did nothing but kick for points. I wasn't playing BB at the time and didn't realise the kicking rules weren't official. The guys opponent said it was the worst game he'd ever took part in.

Now i'm not saying the HE player was a typical player or that there's no place in the game for kicking. But watching that game didn't make me want to rush out and buy BB

Both of us agreed that there should not be points for kicking a field goal, but that there was a place for kicking, such as kicking for safety or to get the ball downfield instead of a pass. remember you can just as easily pass to an empty square if your that way inclined

DaImp · Post by **DaImp** » Wed May 21, 2003 10:02 pm

McDeth wrote:remember you can just as easily pass to an empty square if your that way inclined

Which is a sneaky tactic I have used to good effect on a few occasions!

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Thu May 22, 2003 7:34 am

First of all, "Up and Under" is the worst thing that could happen to the game:
Up and Under, especially along with the Kick skill would certainly, no doubt about it, give an enormous edge to fast and agile teams. That would be the first skill I take every time, and would very quickly become the #1 choice for every team.
With Up And Under, slower and stronger teams basically lose one turn and require at least three turns to score. They cannot form a cage before the defence responds, or their cage has to be formed half-way to their own side of the pitch, or even deeper.
If a blitz is rolled on the kick-off table, they're even worse off than normally.

Briefly about the kicking rules: sure they are a nice addition to the game, especially because it's quite scarcely used. Only thing that I don't like is the change to the scoring system, but I'm afraid that it can't or won't be changed. Should someone listen to my suggestion about reorganising the rulebook, this should definitely go to the "Official House Rules"-section.

Cool Hand Fluke · Post by **Cool Hand Fluke** » Thu May 22, 2003 7:56 am

[quote="McDeth"Both of us agreed that there should not be points for kicking a field goal, but that there was a place for kicking, such as kicking for safety or to get the ball downfield instead of a pass. remember you can just as easily pass to an empty square if your that way inclined[/quote]

I know, i wasn't disagreeing with either you are DaImp. I quoted you as it seemed in line with the point i was making

I love the pass to an empty square downfield. Watch my Gutter-Runners go

Snarlton Heston · Post by **Snarlton Heston** » Thu May 22, 2003 9:03 pm

AHHH, Kicking! I do hope there is something soon that gives the kicker more value. Dwarves love having him used ONCE per game. On a GREAT day, maybe he sees action twice! On days with two actions, you need to have the apoth ready! The kicker may die of a heart attack!

Suggestion 1:
What about being able to kick the ball down the field at anytime during the game, like a pass except without the "pass killing" modifiers?! How many of you see Aussie Rules Football?

Suggestion 2:
How about kicking field goals comes into play after the overtime ends in a tie?

Your have the coin toss: Winner chooses who goes first.

2 lines out: 2+
4 lines out: 3+
6 lines out: 4+
8 lines out: 5+
10 lines out: 6+

After every successful kick, the opponent gets a chance to block the kick: Roll a 6 and you block it! Roll on you team roster to see who gets the two SPPs for blocking the kick.

If you go first and have the kick blocked, your opponent must first make his attempt and then not have you block it! There are no "give me" wins in BB! Wins must be earned!

First one to miss is the loser! Award 2 SPPs to your kicker for kicking the game-winner!

Just a thought!

Snarlton Heston
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This is it! He's ten lines out! Our score sits at 2-2 in OT! The Creeper's "Swinging" Dick Stroker sets up for the attempt. A hush has fallen over the stadium. Perfect snap! Perfect hold! It's long enough......

The Creeper's win the pennant! The Creeper's win the pennant!

DaImp · Post by **DaImp** » Fri May 23, 2003 4:45 pm

Kicking a field goal to determine the winner in an overtime shoot-out is a great idea. Certainly better than a coin toss which is an anti-climax.

BlanchPrez · Post by **BlanchPrez** » Fri May 23, 2003 4:56 pm

I like that idea.

BTW, Off topic, Imp, I like your new avitar.

Chris

DaImp · Post by **DaImp** » Fri May 23, 2003 5:02 pm

Thanks BlanchPrez. It is bassed on a football (soccer) team here in South Africa called the Orlando Pirates (www.orlandopirates.co.za) who are the current national champions. I am hoping my new Orc team will have similar success.

Snarlton Heston · Post by **Snarlton Heston** » Fri May 23, 2003 8:21 pm

Guys,

Thanks for the compliment! I reposted this again under the "Concepts" section. Please fill out the poll!

Snarlton Heston
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A OT dice-off is like kissing your sister! YUCK!