One turn TD's a problem?

Boss · Post by **Boss** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:24 am

I just wanted to add that orc, goblins and halflings have on td turners aswell. And chaos, and norse could with some money have that also And maybe chaos dwarves? Dont remember.

uhm, how would Chaos and Norse get a 1-turn scorer under the LRB rules ?

neverdodge · Post by **neverdodge** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:27 am

narkotic wrote:Yes, and playing against 1-turn-TD Skaven or Woodelfs makes you "only" lose the game, and not losing the match AND get your team crushed.

100 % agree on that one .

And i will add that one turner is a perfect reply to team taking both full half to score ...

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:32 am

Boss wrote:
I just wanted to add that orc, goblins and halflings have on td turners aswell. And chaos, and norse could with some money have that also And maybe chaos dwarves? Dont remember.
uhm, how would Chaos and Norse get a 1-turn scorer under the LRB rules ?

Chaos can freeboot stunty goblin-stars and Norse? Don't know...

Pitch Dark · Post by **Pitch Dark** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:53 am

not stunty but right stuff.

But i was wrong about norse though, ive got a good but selective memory.

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:57 am

aehm,... of course, right stuff...

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:13 pm

You can 1 turn with a rookie Gutter Runner anyway. You don't even need a quick snap.

Regardless 1 turners are very annoying, but aren't unbalanced - so long as you play must field 11 players.

Post by **Thadrin** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 1:45 pm

Ian hit the one big problem with teh current OTS rules right on the head. As long as there is this STUPID ruling that you only have to set up three players, not as close to 11 as possible, one turners need never be on pitch for defence. It should be possible to force them to play so you get a chance to kill them.

noodle · Post by **noodle** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:01 pm

I heartily agree. In our league players MUST field 11 players if they can. Its Nuffle's sacred number!

BlanchPrez · Post by **BlanchPrez** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:07 pm

Yeah, we always play where you have to field as close to 11 players as you can. I never even realized that it was possible to purposly not field 11 players.

Chris

Post by **Thadrin** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:09 pm

It wasn't until the last rules review. I'd LOVE to know the reasoning behind that one if it wasn't just a badly worded rule.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:19 pm

IIRC Neo claimed responsibility - so you could protect your team from a real mauling.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:34 pm

Bah, it's not a real mauling if i have more than 3 players left

Sixpack595 · Post by **Sixpack595** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:40 pm

Not even close. Skaven and other insane Mv teams can OTS from any kick off, but for the TTM you need to get very good ball position. Rats can pass to their OTSer, but the others must hand off, not easy with a 6MV on your fastest guy.

OTSers suck because theres really no way to stop them. Not even proper team development and carefull setup can stop them, the best you get is them needing a team reroll instead of a skill reroll for a dodge. Maybe if Diving tackle was General, but as it is you are just along for the ride. If the whiners get their way and nerf PO, they better fix the OTSers too. Make your oponant field as many guys as possible so we can crush those little pricks.

Pitch Dark wrote:I just wanted to add that orc, goblins and halflings have on td turners aswell. And chaos, and norse could with some money have that also And maybe chaos dwarves? Dont remember.

Rathe · Post by **Rathe** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:43 pm

I play a Skaven team in my current league. And I have a 1 turn scorer. I use him to counter act the strong teams against my measily armor. Besides, I always play him on defense, somehow I always manage to knock the ball loose from even the toughest cage through proper hitting and then one accurate pass down field to an unmoved one turn scorer and you got yourself a defensive touch down. Sure he could die, but its a chance I'm willing to take. People are stupid to take their fastest guy off the field for defense, if they want to waste time chasing one rat, they waste at least one guy protecting the ball.

Just my two cents on it, I love my one turn scorer, but he's not the end all be all of my team. Was winning without him, he's just an added bonus.

Snarlton Heston · Post by **Snarlton Heston** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 7:40 pm

"Is the ability of Skaven and Wood Elf teams to score one turn touchdowns broken?

HELL YES IT'S BROKEN!

IF PO AND THE ORGES ARE BROKEN, SO IS THIS!

Of course, Jervis and the boys will find a way to eliminate PO and Big Guys while creating a "no turn" score for the agility teams!

I can see the new rule in October 2003: "Just for using skaven/elves, the coach get +1 score."

Snarlton Heston
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