Can you do without a Big Guy?

WildAnimal · Post by **WildAnimal** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:06 pm

Can you survive without a Bigguy?

I thinking of playing chaos without bigguy, becouse it seems that my big guys always have the way the most SPP on my bashing teams,
Any i generely think there are something wrong with bigguys

But can i survive without one?

harley_topper · Post by **harley_topper** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:13 pm

I think no one needs a big guy to win or survive. A BigGuy only adds some additional strength to your team. But also a weakness, cause he is always in danger to do a turnover (especially the Wild Animals).

I played humans, amazons in long term leagues and I played them without a BigGuy (zons can't hire a BigGuy) and it worked well.

I never played a chaos team but I think they need no BigGuy to survive, but it will add some skills to a starting team (Mighty Blow, or frenzy if you hire a mino).

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:20 pm

Chaos doesnt need them. Only the stunty teams need them.They are highly useful for bashy teams once they get block and reduce turnovers. Having a bg on the line loosens up the options for bashy teams.Its more for team that has 2-3 guys with block tho.

bluetooth · Post by **bluetooth** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:53 pm

Agree. A big guy is not a necessary buy. You survive very well without them, especially with a chaos team. In fact, I don't like to use big guys except in a orc or a goblin team (TTM is so much fun).

Flyin' Fling · Post by **Flyin' Fling** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 2:39 pm

yes, you can survive without problems without a big guy.

you don't have the str, but you have more reliability.

I'm against Big guys for anybody but stunty teams and have never taken one for my teams that could take them (dwarf, skaven, woodelf). although the treeman for the woodies has been tempting now and again, I've stood by my principles. can't get the team over 10 players, but they're doing well nonetheless.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 2:56 pm

Ah, 'mon, you've got to take the RO in a skaven team, it's the perfect defence against your own one-turner

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 4:46 pm

I don't think any team needs one but there are some teams that are greatly improved by fielding a big guy. Shouldn't you do everything you can to make sure your team is the best they can be?

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 6:05 pm

It depends on the Big Guy and the team.

Wood Elves, Lizardmen, Chaos Dwarves, Orcs & Chaos can live perfectly happily without one. Undead don't get one and don't need it.

Humans and Norse are probably the biggest gainers by taking an Ogre.

HE & DE don't really need one, but can suffer if they don't get some Dauntless & Guard early enough.

Longshot · Post by **Longshot** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:07 pm

Dont need one to survive!
Look at the elves!

MistWraith · Post by **MistWraith** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 11:31 pm

Longshot wrote:Look at the elves!

Except the wood elves, who get a treeman.

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:25 am

Except the wood elves, who get a treeman.

But there are a few people on this board who think they really dont need them.

MistWraith · Post by **MistWraith** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:35 am

They (and anyother non stunty team for that matter) do not need them. Only the current random distribution of Big Guys caused them to get one.

Big Guys only add power to a team. None of the current negative traits, with the exception of wild animal, are really all that negative when compared to the positives you gain by having a big guy.

This leads to "Big Guy escalation" where every team that can take one feels the need to take on in order to level the playing field.

So to answer the original posters question, no you do not need one, yes it really helps to take one if you can.

gken1 · Post by **gken1** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 1:02 am

i definitely feel alot safer when I got a big guy to handle the other teams big guy...i use them mostly as a sponge for taking the hits. becomes less useful once piling on comes into effect tho.

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 1:17 am

I agree with Ken. The BG is a security blanket - he isn't needed but he helps the rest of your team a lot.

BTW, Mistwraith, I like the new avatar. I just saw that movie for the first time on Friday. It was good stuff...