Any chance for your comments on this ?

Ddraig Coch · Post by **Ddraig Coch** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 1:57 pm

The guy that runs the table top league that I play in had this comment to make about LRB v1.3. Does anyone agree ?

If the LRB was so great the BBRC guys themselves would be using it when the
only 3 who actually make their presence known on talkbloodbowl are in
leagues that don't. In fact the most upfront, Chet, plays in a league which
has reintroduced dirty player proper and he himself plays a mixed race team
which doesn't exist under current rules.

In fact I only know of 2 leagues which play LRB as it stands and one of them
is the MBBL which is in place simply to test the LRB as it stands and even
they use kicking rules and a couple other experimental items. The LRB is a
basis for building your own league. It's no coincidence that there's a many
page list of items for the BBRC to look at and it's also no coincidence that
they didn't do squat to change the rules (The actual reason has nothing to
do with them being balanced it's because their release schedule for the new
BB boxset was before the Octorber review)

Trambi · Post by **Trambi** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 2:09 pm

LRB is perhaps to be the best possible basis of rules.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 2:15 pm

Well the ECBBL plays fairly clean LRB 1.3.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 2:49 pm

Chet afaik uses his league to test new rules and rule tweaks. This helps to get data to use in the rules review. If the BBRC members always played with the lrb then the rules would be decided by people who havn't tested any changes. Makes perfect sense to me tbh.

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 3:13 pm

Well, we play vanilla 2k1. I guess the question is how many use LRB as the core set with a few house rules added.
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Tamper Magnitude · Post by **Tamper Magnitude** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 3:42 pm

I would reckon most "leagues" play the LRB with house rules, there tend to be small ways in which the interpretations vary throughout [obvious]

McDeth · Post by **McDeth** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 3:59 pm

At the end of the day, everyone needs a base set of rules to base their league on and that is what the LRB is. no-one said the LRB was the be all and end all. If you want to tailor in a few rules which better suits the league you play in or because you particularly like a rule IE Secret Weapons/Khemri. then fine, no problem. But without that base to work from then you've got nothing at all.

That's what the whole concept of house rules are for.

Post by **Thadrin** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 5:33 pm

We use LRB with three small variations: No rule of 1 and 6 on Fan Factor rolls, treasury doesn't count to TRR and winnings are a little different because we don't play OT (20k win, 10k draw).

Otherwise we're on pure LRB.

I imagine most leagues are the same. Anyway, I thought Chet played Amazons?

(Speaking of which...aren't he and Neo being unusually quiet? mebee just cos its Rules Review time.)

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 5:40 pm

Not seen a post from Lucian in ages either

Lucien Swift · Post by **Lucien Swift** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 6:36 pm

i no longer have opinions.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 6:43 pm

So you don't mind my green base rings, thats nice to know ;]

Lucien Swift · Post by **Lucien Swift** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 6:52 pm

not if you've got a whole team of blockers, i don't...

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 7:10 pm

hmm 11 mummies.....

Ghost of Pariah · Post by **Ghost of Pariah** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 8:03 pm

Our league used used BB2K1 but we all got frustrated and confused when we realised that the LRB changed depending on what time you downloaded it. We had different rulebooks and didn't even know it.
After all the mess of 4 edition and beyond this nightmare was pretty much a killing blow to my league. We don't play at all anymore and I don't see it starting up anytime soon either. Most people in my league are sick and tired of GW, Fanatic and Blood Bowl.

neoliminal · Post by **neoliminal** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 9:14 pm

In my league we play straight LRB, with some test rules that we want to publish as experimental (PGFI). So there's at least on BBRC member who's running a league straight from the book.

As for Pariah's problem with downloading different versions of the LRB... all I can say is 'duh'. That's the whole point of the "Living Rule Book". It's the most up to date version of the rules, and the download clearly tells you the version number.

Lastly, the reason you haven't heard from Chet or I recently is because of the rules review.